Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a

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texte = Hi John/Govinda, You say you are including things. Are you mindful=20 of this rule of telling WebDNA which syntax the=20 include is using? : In order to make it easier for you to port sites=20 one-page-at-a-time, we have gone to great lengths=20 to let you intermix the syntax. [include], for=20 instance, automatically assumes the file you're=20 including will be the same syntax as the template=20 you're including *from*. means classic syntax for this whole page means XML syntax for this whole page [include file=3Dfred.inc] will parse fred.inc using classic syntax [include file=3Dfred.inc&xmlSyntax=3DT] will parse fred.inc using XML syntax This is from the help pages, specifically this one: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D87 Terry >> Are you going by John now or Govinda? ;-) > >Both. Govinda since years.. but many new me=20 >before as John, and I wanted to alleviate some=20 >local recent confusion thus changing my sig=20 >files, etc. I feel more of a Govinda, but you=20 >can use either :-) >> >> When you tested your redirect.. was it in the=20 >>same context as your live setup?.. or did you=20 >>test it separately? You said something about=20 >>including it... which is what I meant by the=20 >>important bits. > >I always was/am testing in my live setup. The only 'contexts' are: > >1) that the code is inside two showifs, one=20 >fires when reaching here from a form=20 >submission.. the other fires when its var is=20 >set to empty string: > >[showif [URL][submit][/URL]=3Dsubmit] >...stuff.. >[showif [URL][AlertUser2Neglect][/URL]=3D] >issue-challenged code here (the [redirect], or=20 >probably [lookup], or I assume even other=20 >tags/contexts with [url] inside them)> >[/showif] >[/showif] > >2) If you want to try and replicate the issue=20 >(please! I mean is it just me?!) , start with a=20 >WYSIWYG_syntax page... in there, include=20 >another WYSIWYG_syntax file, ...which finally=20 >includes a square-bracket style file which has=20 >the issue-challenged code in it. > >- >I am used to being maverick, but yeah, it is=20 >nerve racking when simultaneously trying to=20 >produce production (bill-paying) code ;-) >I'm happily game here so long as I have your attention here..=A0=A0 >*especially* you guys who now have the fate of webdna in your hands.=A0=A0= =A0 >Even if we are only a handful, if it works, it=20 >works. Not to say I don't wish for total=20 >success.. just that I gotta start with the code=20 >that I am responsible for. > >BTW, I tried the [redirect] with every possible=20 >use of the url=3D param and [url]-use/placement=20 >permutation and combination. This issue is=20 >something deeper. >P.P.S. the PHP list finally converted me to a=20 >bottom poster.. but seems hardly worth the=20 >effort to be consistent when even there it is=20 >like herding cats. ;-) > >> >> Regarding redirect syntax, what we (the list) decided long ago >> was that you should use the [url][/url] tags when using the url=3D >> param. Johns/Govinda's syntax is what I've been using for years without >> problems. >> >> I would suggest to you, John to run your pipe=20 >>troubleshooting test *in the live context that=20 >>the redirect exists in*.. 'include' and all...=20 >>if >> you haven't already. This is what I suggested that you post to the list >> since it is most likely where the problem exists. >> >> In general, I like your idea of >> using the WYSIWYG include tag to "hide" the classic syntax. However, >> you may be a maverick in doing this and the essence of being >> a maverick assumes issues. >> >> Btw, yes, we have *officially* changed the reference to the WYSIWYG >> syntax from "XML-style syntax" to "WYSIWYG syntax". This is because that >> syntax is of course not XML.. so we are naming it for what it was >> designed for. >> >> Donovan >> >> --Donovan Brooke >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> http://www.webdna.us >> **[Square Bracket Utopia]** >> > >------------ >John Butler (Govinda) >govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D= 288 -- Terry Wilson | terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, affordable online reservation system http://TightJacket.com -- stylish protection for your laptop -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure. Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (Kenneth Grome 2009)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a ("Terry Wilson" 2009)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a (Terry Wilson 2009)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (Kenneth Grome 2009)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a (Terry Wilson 2009)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (Kenneth Grome 2009)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2009)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a (Terry Wilson 2009)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a (Terry Wilson 2009)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a (Terry Wilson 2009)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2009)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style (Donovan Brooke 2009)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (Bob Minor 2009)
  24. [WebDNA] agree? --> [url] broken inside [redirect], on a square-bracket-style include, included from a XML-style page (John Butler 2009)
Hi John/Govinda, You say you are including things. Are you mindful=20 of this rule of telling WebDNA which syntax the=20 include is using? : In order to make it easier for you to port sites=20 one-page-at-a-time, we have gone to great lengths=20 to let you intermix the syntax. [include], for=20 instance, automatically assumes the file you're=20 including will be the same syntax as the template=20 you're including *from*. means classic syntax for this whole page means XML syntax for this whole page [include file=3Dfred.inc] will parse fred.inc using classic syntax [include file=3Dfred.inc&xmlSyntax=3DT] will parse fred.inc using XML syntax This is from the help pages, specifically this one: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D87 Terry >> Are you going by John now or Govinda? ;-) > >Both. Govinda since years.. but many new me=20 >before as John, and I wanted to alleviate some=20 >local recent confusion thus changing my sig=20 >files, etc. I feel more of a Govinda, but you=20 >can use either :-) >> >> When you tested your redirect.. was it in the=20 >>same context as your live setup?.. or did you=20 >>test it separately? You said something about=20 >>including it... which is what I meant by the=20 >>important bits. > >I always was/am testing in my live setup. The only 'contexts' are: > >1) that the code is inside two showifs, one=20 >fires when reaching here from a form=20 >submission.. the other fires when its var is=20 >set to empty string: > >[showif [url][submit][/URL]=3Dsubmit] >...stuff.. >[showif [url][AlertUser2Neglect][/URL]=3D] >issue-challenged code here (the [redirect], or=20 >probably [lookup], or I assume even other=20 >tags/contexts with [url] inside them)> >[/showif] >[/showif] > >2) If you want to try and replicate the issue=20 >(please! I mean is it just me?!) , start with a=20 >WYSIWYG_syntax page... in there, include=20 >another WYSIWYG_syntax file, ...which finally=20 >includes a square-bracket style file which has=20 >the issue-challenged code in it. > >- >I am used to being maverick, but yeah, it is=20 >nerve racking when simultaneously trying to=20 >produce production (bill-paying) code ;-) >I'm happily game here so long as I have your attention here..=A0=A0 >*especially* you guys who now have the fate of webdna in your hands.=A0=A0= =A0 >Even if we are only a handful, if it works, it=20 >works. Not to say I don't wish for total=20 >success.. just that I gotta start with the code=20 >that I am responsible for. > >BTW, I tried the [redirect] with every possible=20 >use of the url=3D param and [url]-use/placement=20 >permutation and combination. This issue is=20 >something deeper. >P.P.S. the PHP list finally converted me to a=20 >bottom poster.. but seems hardly worth the=20 >effort to be consistent when even there it is=20 >like herding cats. ;-) > >> >> Regarding redirect syntax, what we (the list) decided long ago >> was that you should use the [url][/url] tags when using the url=3D >> param. Johns/Govinda's syntax is what I've been using for years without >> problems. >> >> I would suggest to you, John to run your pipe=20 >>troubleshooting test *in the live context that=20 >>the redirect exists in*.. 'include' and all...=20 >>if >> you haven't already. This is what I suggested that you post to the list >> since it is most likely where the problem exists. >> >> In general, I like your idea of >> using the WYSIWYG include tag to "hide" the classic syntax. However, >> you may be a maverick in doing this and the essence of being >> a maverick assumes issues. >> >> Btw, yes, we have *officially* changed the reference to the WYSIWYG >> syntax from "XML-style syntax" to "WYSIWYG syntax". This is because that >> syntax is of course not XML.. so we are naming it for what it was >> designed for. >> >> Donovan >> >> --Donovan Brooke >> WebDNA Software Corporation >> http://www.webdna.us >> **[Square Bracket Utopia]** >> > >------------ >John Butler (Govinda) >govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >Bug Reporting: http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D= 288 -- Terry Wilson | terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, affordable online reservation system http://TightJacket.com -- stylish protection for your laptop -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure. Terry Wilson

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