Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor

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2012


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 108186
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texte = I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 on the same box? ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it. Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the primary domain for that site? Rob On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with 7.0? > > - chris > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? >> >> That would take weeks.... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> >>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=299 >>> >>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. >>> >>> - chris >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably generated by me trying to get it to start. >>>> >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM: >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM: >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM: >>>> >>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: >>>> >>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" >>>> >>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. >>>> >>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. >>>> >>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the point where we don't have to babysit it. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Robert >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny. >>>>>> >>>>>> Was your old server intel based? >>>>> >>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it happens. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost more then purchasing a new one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 stop, and drive >>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding a script to >>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old script... not sure >>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of the old >>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to start it, which >>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up with "ps: No user >>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about these scripts, >>>>>>>>> which I don't. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this working, or is >>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage (2 CPU's) >>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at least not >>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change the 'kill -9' >>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl restart'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions in Snow >>>>>>>>> Leopard.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script to "ps aux". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard troubleshooting >>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files etc.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. Its just an >>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I did notice, >>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, so I'm not sure >>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it happens so >>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think all turn on >>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see if I can catch >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2012)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Kenneth Grome 2012)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Robert Minor 2012)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (William DeVaul 2012)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Donovan Brooke 2012)
  31. [WebDNA] 6.2 Monitor (Rob 2012)
I haven't yet, and just now downloaded it. Can 7 run parallel with 6.2 on the same box? ...and... can all the testing be done before the domain is pointed to it, as I see in the instructions it needs a vhost pointed to it. Can that vhost be changed after everything is setup back to the primary domain for that site? Rob On Jan 23, 2012, at 1:22 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > About the stores... since the commerce tags are still available under 7.0 (except the URL command system) did anyone try to run a store with 7.0? > > - chris > > > > On Jan 23, 2012, at 14:26, Rob wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> I would, but won't that kill all my stores, as I am running 6.2. Would I have to do a rewrite on everything? >> >> That would take weeks.... :-( >> >> Rob >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2012, at 10:24 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >> >>> Hi Rob! download the last version of WebDNA 7.0.623 at http://dev.webdna.us/products.html and check the history at http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=299 >>> >>> This bug only affects OS X and busy servers. >>> >>> - chris >>> >>> >>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 13:25, Rob wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, this acted up again, and am not getting errors in the debug, or any error logs, which is strange. The processor just climbed to 180% on the WebCatalog process. I am getting a few lines in the signal termination log, but that's it, and a couple of them were probably generated by me trying to get it to start. >>>> >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 06:03:56 2012 MSTProcessid 66785 receive SIGTERM: >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:56:02 2012 MSTProcessid 66958 receive SIGTERM: >>>> ---Mon Jan 23 07:59:02 2012 MSTProcessid 69107 receive SIGTERM: >>>> >>>> However, I am getting a weird error when I trigger /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl restart in terminal. I get about ten or twelve lines of: >>>> >>>> "sem_open failed: returned ENOSPC: No space left on device" >>>> >>>> and can't exit terminal without quitting it. >>>> >>>> Not sure at all what that error is, any ideas? The server has 450 gigs of free space(Mac os x 10.6.8, WebDNA 6.2). I did do an uninstall, and complete reinstall of WebDNA, but it still comes up with this same error on restart. WebDNA does start and run normally though. >>>> >>>> We will eventually move over to version 7, but can't get at it for a few months, so need to get this stable for now, or at least to the point where we don't have to babysit it. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 5:55 AM, Rob wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Robert >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Robert Minor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Maybe the thought he was funny. >>>>>> >>>>>> Was your old server intel based? >>>>> >>>>> No, it was PPC... 10.4.11 >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> did you turn on the troubleshooting tools? >>>>> >>>>> Yes, they are on now... Hoping to catch it the next time it happens. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Uuuuh...the server is only six months old.... how new do you want me to try?... All that's happened is we retired an old server, that wasn't having any problems, but it was over 5 years old, and we just didn't trust it any more, and to replace internal hardware would cost more then purchasing a new one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:35 PM, William DeVaul wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try a new server. Worked wonders for me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Rob wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rob wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Very rarely(once every couple months) I have WebDNA 6.2 stop, and drive >>>>>>>>> the CPU nuts on Snow Leopard Server, and am looking at adding a script to >>>>>>>>> keep an eye on it while I go on vacation. I found an old script... not sure >>>>>>>>> where it come from or where I got it, but I had it on one of the old >>>>>>>>> servers, and would like to get it working using launchd to start it, which >>>>>>>>> isn't the problem. When I trigger the script, it comes up with "ps: No user >>>>>>>>> named 'x'". Which is fairly obvious to those who no about these scripts, >>>>>>>>> which I don't. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So my question is, does anyone know how to get this working, or is >>>>>>>>> there a better way? ... Script below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't use that script for a couple reasons. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First, It's not bad if your server shoots up to a 145% usage (2 CPU's) >>>>>>>>> for short instances now and then.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Second, kill -9 is *not* a good way of stopping WebDNA... at least not >>>>>>>>> for 6.2 which still uses WebDNAMonitor. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the script seems to contain logical problems in my opinion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you were to use it, I'd change it to 199%... and change the 'kill -9' >>>>>>>>> to '/Library/WebServer/WebCatalogEngine/WebCatalogCtl restart'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To fix the script, there is a change to how 'ps' functions in Snow >>>>>>>>> Leopard.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> basically change the instances of "ps -aux" in your script to "ps aux". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To fix your CPU issue, I'd start looking into standard troubleshooting >>>>>>>>> techniques.. looking at logs, looking for overgrown log files etc.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Donovan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the input Donovan. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm going to use it or not, at this point. Its just an >>>>>>>>> avenue I'm looking at, unless there is a better solution. I did notice, >>>>>>>>> however, that when WebDNA dies, the CPU hoovers around 60%, so I'm not sure >>>>>>>>> this will even work when it acts up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been looking at the logs trying to pin out down, but it happens so >>>>>>>>> rarely that its hard to get a handle on it... :-( .. I think all turn on >>>>>>>>> everything in the Prefs Technical section for a while to see if I can catch >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Rob

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