Re: [BULK] Re: [WebDNA] triggers.db "next execute" fails to update

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2012


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Hi Matthew, Thanks for this very valuable information. I thought the host was running 6.2 but I checked the server this morning and he is still running 6.0! This explains the trigger problems I've been wasting my time on ... :( Does anyone remember when version 6.0 was released? I'm thinking it was almost 10 years ago, is this correct? Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > Kenneth, > > I've had the same issues on all my WebCat 4.x, 5.x, and > 6.0 servers over the years. The problems does not seem > to happen on 6.2 for me. > > In my case, I had many triggers in a single Sandbox that > would work fine for months and then one of them would > stop updating. Or, even stranger, it would update to > some time into the future. It never happen often enough > to figure out a pattern. > > My solution was to simply delete the next trigger date > and time. Save. Open the trigger record again and let > it fill in the next execute time on it's own. > > I always suspected that it would only happen when WebDNA > was close to, or exceeded, the available RAM, but that's > such a hard thing to figure out. > > -Matthew > > On 1/29/2012 6:53 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > Nope, just > > > > Sincerely, > > Kenneth Grome > > > >> Typo in your "Validation Text" ? > >> > >> On 29/01/2012, at 4:29 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> I created a trigger on WebDNA 6.x via WebDNA Sandbox > >>> Admin. This is the only trigger used in this sandbox. > >>> > >>> When it runs WebDNA fails update the "next execute" > >>> value like it is supposed to. Therefore the trigger > >>> runs again every 10 seconds, and the same template is > >>> interpreted by WebDNA again ... > >>> > >>> This is a "bad thing" when the template has a > >>> sendmail context it it to alert me that the trigger > >>> has run, because it sends me another email every 10 > >>> seconds. I got more than 1500 emails this morning > >>> before the host put an end to it by rebooting the > >>> server ... :( > >>> > >>> Flushing the databases does not stop the trigger from > >>> running. Deleting the target template via FTP does > >>> not stop it, because even though the file is no > >>> longer on disk it is apparently still cached in RAM. > >>> Strangely enough, the template seems to remain > >>> cached in RAM , thus ignoring the WebCatalog Prefs > >>> that's supposed to force the template out of ram > >>> every 2 seconds. Issuing a FlushCache command also > >>> fails to purge the template from RAM. > >>> > >>> :( > >>> > >>> My host refuses to investigate this issue. Whether > >>> he is lazy, irresponsible, incompetent, or all of > >>> the above, cannot say for certain. Nevertheless I > >>> need the problem fixed, so I'll have to figure this > >>> out myself, hopefully with some bright ideas from > >>> others here. > >>> > >>> Any idea why WebDNA might fail to update the "next > >>> execute" value when the trigger is run? > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Kenneth Grome > >>> ----------------------------------------------------- > >>> -- -- This message is sent to you because you are > >>> subscribed to the mailing list. To > >>> unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list. > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list. > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > > > > > > > Psi Prime, Inc. > > 323 Union Blvd. > > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > > > Service: 973.413.8211 > > Training: 973.413.8214 > > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > > > http://www.perosi.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
Hi Matthew, Thanks for this very valuable information. I thought the host was running 6.2 but I checked the server this morning and he is still running 6.0! This explains the trigger problems I've been wasting my time on ... :( Does anyone remember when version 6.0 was released? I'm thinking it was almost 10 years ago, is this correct? Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > Kenneth, > > I've had the same issues on all my WebCat 4.x, 5.x, and > 6.0 servers over the years. The problems does not seem > to happen on 6.2 for me. > > In my case, I had many triggers in a single Sandbox that > would work fine for months and then one of them would > stop updating. Or, even stranger, it would update to > some time into the future. It never happen often enough > to figure out a pattern. > > My solution was to simply delete the next trigger date > and time. Save. Open the trigger record again and let > it fill in the next execute time on it's own. > > I always suspected that it would only happen when WebDNA > was close to, or exceeded, the available RAM, but that's > such a hard thing to figure out. > > -Matthew > > On 1/29/2012 6:53 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > Nope, just > > > > Sincerely, > > Kenneth Grome > > > >> Typo in your "Validation Text" ? > >> > >> On 29/01/2012, at 4:29 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> I created a trigger on WebDNA 6.x via WebDNA Sandbox > >>> Admin. This is the only trigger used in this sandbox. > >>> > >>> When it runs WebDNA fails update the "next execute" > >>> value like it is supposed to. Therefore the trigger > >>> runs again every 10 seconds, and the same template is > >>> interpreted by WebDNA again ... > >>> > >>> This is a "bad thing" when the template has a > >>> sendmail context it it to alert me that the trigger > >>> has run, because it sends me another email every 10 > >>> seconds. I got more than 1500 emails this morning > >>> before the host put an end to it by rebooting the > >>> server ... :( > >>> > >>> Flushing the databases does not stop the trigger from > >>> running. Deleting the target template via FTP does > >>> not stop it, because even though the file is no > >>> longer on disk it is apparently still cached in RAM. > >>> Strangely enough, the template seems to remain > >>> cached in RAM , thus ignoring the WebCatalog Prefs > >>> that's supposed to force the template out of ram > >>> every 2 seconds. Issuing a FlushCache command also > >>> fails to purge the template from RAM. > >>> > >>> :( > >>> > >>> My host refuses to investigate this issue. Whether > >>> he is lazy, irresponsible, incompetent, or all of > >>> the above, cannot say for certain. Nevertheless I > >>> need the problem fixed, so I'll have to figure this > >>> out myself, hopefully with some bright ideas from > >>> others here. > >>> > >>> Any idea why WebDNA might fail to update the "next > >>> execute" value when the trigger is run? > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Kenneth Grome > >>> ----------------------------------------------------- > >>> -- -- This message is sent to you because you are > >>> subscribed to the mailing list. To > >>> unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list. > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list. > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > > > > > > > Psi Prime, Inc. > > 323 Union Blvd. > > Totowa, NJ 07512 > > > > Service: 973.413.8211 > > Training: 973.413.8214 > > Fax: 973.413.8217 > > > > http://www.perosi.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Kenneth Grome

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