Re: [WebDNA] 30 Minute Cookies
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2016
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = 250 imagination is good innovation is good jym On 3/18/2016 7:10 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > What we do offer to WebDNA customers are new tools. You cannot use [session] as you would use a [cookie]: it gives you a way to decide if an IP change will or will not be a trigger for closing a session, it will NOT allow a user to access his own session and represents a huge step forward for security , it gives you the possibility to assign sessions to robots... Your imagination and creativity is your best friend here. > > About [biotype], know that several banks are showing great interest into WebDNA based solutions and that this "small addition" might revolutionize WebDNA future. > > Again, what we do here is not trying to keep an old product under medical assistance but to create, improve and make it great again. > > - chris > > > > On 18 Mar 2016, at 16:32, Kenneth Grome
wrote: > > Chris, > > I was extremely happy to switch from [cart] based shopping carts > to [cookie] based carts -- because the use of cookies totally > eliminated all the problems related to passing cart values from > page to page. Cookies are SO MUCH BETTER for this task! > > And using the ip address (in whole or in part) to identify a > session is a huge mistake in my opinion, because ISPs assign ip > addresses dynamically, changing them all the time, and they have > done it this way for decades. > > Your implementation of [session] would require that I go back to > passing a session value in every link and form in the entire > website. This is practically impossible in anything but a new > website due to the extensive rewriting required. But it is not > something I would consider even when creating a new website from > scratch -- because cookies are still far better at this task. > > Sorry Chris, I have no use for your [session] system and I'm > willing to bet that most everyone else feels the same. I honestly > do not know why you bothered to create it before asking us if we > would ever use it. You did the same thing with BioType. > > I wish you would just ask us what changes we might like to see in > WebDNA, and make those changes first, before introducing new > features that no one asked for or wants or needs. > > Trying to anticipate the future and introduce new features to > serve those potential future needs is great *if* your current > product is not lacking, and if you have the money to splurge on > developing new features no one may ever use. But this is not the > situation with WebDNA, is it? > > Updating WebDNA's cookie capabilities is something we could all > use today and into the foreseeable future. Some of us would also > feel better about being able to offer our clients dramatically > simplified and updated database security, perhaps in the way we > discussed a few weeks. These are the things we use every day. > > BTW, [session] is not listed on your alphabetical list of tags and > contexts. I wonder how many others are missing from this > (alphabetical) list or the other (categorized) list? > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet -Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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250 imagination is good innovation is good jym On 3/18/2016 7:10 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > What we do offer to WebDNA customers are new tools. You cannot use [session] as you would use a [cookie]: it gives you a way to decide if an IP change will or will not be a trigger for closing a session, it will NOT allow a user to access his own session and represents a huge step forward for security , it gives you the possibility to assign sessions to robots... Your imagination and creativity is your best friend here. > > About [biotype], know that several banks are showing great interest into WebDNA based solutions and that this "small addition" might revolutionize WebDNA future. > > Again, what we do here is not trying to keep an old product under medical assistance but to create, improve and make it great again. > > - chris > > > > On 18 Mar 2016, at 16:32, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > Chris, > > I was extremely happy to switch from [cart] based shopping carts > to [cookie] based carts -- because the use of cookies totally > eliminated all the problems related to passing cart values from > page to page. Cookies are SO MUCH BETTER for this task! > > And using the ip address (in whole or in part) to identify a > session is a huge mistake in my opinion, because ISPs assign ip > addresses dynamically, changing them all the time, and they have > done it this way for decades. > > Your implementation of [session] would require that I go back to > passing a session value in every link and form in the entire > website. This is practically impossible in anything but a new > website due to the extensive rewriting required. But it is not > something I would consider even when creating a new website from > scratch -- because cookies are still far better at this task. > > Sorry Chris, I have no use for your [session] system and I'm > willing to bet that most everyone else feels the same. I honestly > do not know why you bothered to create it before asking us if we > would ever use it. You did the same thing with BioType. > > I wish you would just ask us what changes we might like to see in > WebDNA, and make those changes first, before introducing new > features that no one asked for or wants or needs. > > Trying to anticipate the future and introduce new features to > serve those potential future needs is great *if* your current > product is not lacking, and if you have the money to splurge on > developing new features no one may ever use. But this is not the > situation with WebDNA, is it? > > Updating WebDNA's cookie capabilities is something we could all > use today and into the foreseeable future. Some of us would also > feel better about being able to offer our clients dramatically > simplified and updated database security, perhaps in the way we > discussed a few weeks. These are the things we use every day. > > BTW, [session] is not listed on your alphabetical list of tags and > contexts. I wonder how many others are missing from this > (alphabetical) list or the other (categorized) list? > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > -- Jym Duane - CTO - Purpose Media Creating Your Success Story Marketing : Television - Internet -Print Phone: (877) 443-1323 Email: jym@purposemedia.com Web: www.purposemedia.com Oregon - www.GuideToOregon.com PO Box 1725, Jacksonville, OR 97530 California - www.OrangeCounty.net PO Box 2025, Capistrano Beach, CA 92624 --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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