Re: Entry pages (was: WebCatalog MAJOR drawback)
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texte = >Hi,>>This was a fairly long thread a while back...and I'd like to hear from>those who've created entry pages using [writeFile] or other methods to>create product pages that are searchable/listable with search engines.>>In particular, any success stories? tips, advice? links to example pages to>view?>>I'm creating entry pages for our online store -- one for each product>category -- and would love to hear about what others have done! (using>simple context search -- see http://www.me2u.com/GiftStore/Entry/rings.tmpl>).>Thanks,>>Dale Stokdyk>dstokdyk@dvs.mv.comDale,>From what I understand about most search engines, they will not follow thelinks contained on the page you list above. This is because of thearguments you pass in your url (everything past the .tmpl is ignored).Only the info in rings.tmpl would be indexed. If that's all you're lookingfor, then you are ok.If you want to create more detailed, search-based entry pages for yourstore, you need to go one step further down the tree. Create a templatefor each category which contains search contexts to display the contents ofthat category.So your file hierarchy would look like this:rings.tmpl marriage.tmpl [search] returns keyword1, keyword2,...,keywordN or detailed description poesy.tmpl [search] returns keyword1, keyword2,...,keywordN or detailed description decor.tmpl etc.The one exception to this rule that I have seen so far is Lycos, whoappears to index sites including arguments passed in the URL. This isgreat for indexing Webcat-driven sites, but also has the unfortunate sideeffect of re-indexing your site every time Lycos revisits your site whenCART arguments are passed (we have about 35 listings for our home page inLycos right now).The solution to this problem is to use [showif browsername^Lycos] andassign a special cart number to matching browsers (thanks Grant). Thisgives Lycos a consistent cart# and you will only be indexed once. You canalso do a showif based on IPADDRESS, but that may be a bit harder to keeptrack of.Makes you think twice about using add-to-cart and purchase contexts usinghrefs instead of forms, doesn't it? :)If you want to learn more about search engines, I would highly recommendSearch Engine Watch at http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ . I learnedboatloads about search engines by spending a couple hours reading thearticles here.As for example pages, I'm still researching and thinking about the best wayto approach it. Some search engines use keyword meta tags; others ignoremeta tags entirely and only index visible text and titles on the page.So making a good entry page takes more than a little forethought...I'm also still fighting (waiting, really) for Yahoo to list our new site.I have submitted twice in the past 2 months and have gotten no response orlisting. According to some reports, people can submit for over a year andSTILL never get listed in Yahoo. What a great club to be in...:|
Good luck, and may your search results be many.-Dale ________________________ ___________________________| Dale LaFountain | mailto:dalel@dhorse.com || MIS Director,WebMaster | http://www.dhorse.com/ || Dark Horse Comics, Inc.| Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 |\________________________|___________________________/
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>Hi,>>This was a fairly long thread a while back...and I'd like to hear from>those who've created entry pages using [writefile] or other methods to>create product pages that are searchable/listable with search engines.>>In particular, any success stories? tips, advice? links to example pages to>view?>>I'm creating entry pages for our online store -- one for each product>category -- and would love to hear about what others have done! (using>simple context search -- see http://www.me2u.com/GiftStore/Entry/rings.tmpl>).>Thanks,>>Dale Stokdyk>dstokdyk@dvs.mv.comDale,>From what I understand about most search engines, they will not follow thelinks contained on the page you list above. This is because of thearguments you pass in your url (everything past the .tmpl is ignored).Only the info in rings.tmpl would be indexed. If that's all you're lookingfor, then you are ok.If you want to create more detailed, search-based entry pages for yourstore, you need to go one step further down the tree. Create a templatefor each category which contains search contexts to display the contents ofthat category.So your file hierarchy would look like this:rings.tmpl marriage.tmpl [search] returns keyword1, keyword2,...,keywordN or detailed description poesy.tmpl [search] returns keyword1, keyword2,...,keywordN or detailed description decor.tmpl etc.The one exception to this rule that I have seen so far is Lycos, whoappears to index sites including arguments passed in the URL. This isgreat for indexing Webcat-driven sites, but also has the unfortunate sideeffect of re-indexing your site every time Lycos revisits your site whenCART arguments are passed (we have about 35 listings for our home page inLycos right now).The solution to this problem is to use [showif browsername^Lycos] andassign a special cart number to matching browsers (thanks Grant). Thisgives Lycos a consistent cart# and you will only be indexed once. You canalso do a showif based on IPADDRESS, but that may be a bit harder to keeptrack of.Makes you think twice about using add-to-cart and purchase contexts usinghrefs instead of forms, doesn't it? :)If you want to learn more about search engines, I would highly recommendSearch Engine Watch at http://www.searchenginewatch.com/ . I learnedboatloads about search engines by spending a couple hours reading thearticles here.As for example pages, I'm still researching and thinking about the best wayto approach it. Some search engines use keyword meta tags; others ignoremeta tags entirely and only index visible text and titles on the page.So making a good entry page takes more than a little forethought...I'm also still fighting (waiting, really) for Yahoo to list our new site.I have submitted twice in the past 2 months and have gotten no response orlisting. According to some reports, people can submit for over a year andSTILL never get listed in Yahoo. What a great club to be in...:| Good luck, and may your search results be many.-Dale ________________________ ___________________________| Dale LaFountain | mailto:dalel@dhorse.com || MIS Director,WebMaster | http://www.dhorse.com/ || Dark Horse Comics, Inc.| Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 |\________________________|___________________________/
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