Re: Question about replacing words
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1998
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 19640
interpreted = N
texte = On 8.27.98 2.25PM Christer Olsson was heard to say:>>On 8.27.98 6.46AM Christer Olsson was heard to say: >> >>>> I have been a long time user of Netforms for discussion forums. With >>>>Webcatalog there is a huge potential for much more advanced forums. This >>>>is not the case however if I cannot even create a list of vulgarities to >>>>be swapped. While many may find the issue minor, many of my customers >>>>wouldn't even talk about forums until they had the ability to 'filter' >>>>postings to limit their liability. >>> >>>We have used a solution with a banned.db containing: >>> >>>type value >>>word offensive >>>word language >>>email christer@ljusaideer.se >>>email nwmedia@embark.com >>>ip 194.218.021.030 >>>ip 194.218.021.031 >>> >>>Before adding any submissons we do a search in the banned.db and for each >>>hit on [word] we check if any of the text fiekds entered contains the >>>found, banned word. >>> >>>Then we do similar checks on email addresses entered and the IP the posting >>>is made from. >>> >>>If anything is found we simply send a Not allowed posting page. >>> >>>The example above would block postings containing the words offensive or >>>language, and would block me and Alex from posting under our real email >>>addresses, and block me from posting from the computers in my room in the >>>office. >> This is a similar setup to what I am coding now, but unfortunately a >>have a slew of customers that have grown to use the autolink feature of >>Netforms (words swapped on the fly) not only to remove vulgarities but in >>numerous advertising ways. >> >> >> Here is a more accurate and detailed need for WebCatalog to do this. >> >> Lets say I had a site based on Outdoor Activities. In one of many >>many discussion forums I have a user post the following: >> >> Hello everyone. I was just wondering what type of rifles you use for >>bear hunting. What would you suggest. Thanks >> >> >> What actually shows up is: >> >> >> Hello everyone. I was just wondering what type of
>href=results.tmpl?Command=search&cat=rifles&etc>>rifles you use for >>bear hunting. What would you suggest. Thanks >> >> >> As you can see, when dealing with online sales, using the discussion >>forums and other areas of 'interactive' text to further sales is >>critical. Now unless I have missed something, as has Ken, that would >>allow me to do this type of thing, I am at a disadvantage & unable to >>capitalize on the tons of user entered text to further my sales efforts. > >I fully understand your concept and I strongly suggest Grant to think this >over once more. Maybe he could do the work in two steps, so he doesn't have >to do the prefect solution the first time. > >Meanwhile I have done some work letting WebSiphon validate form entries and >then behind the curtains POST the entries to WebCatalog. It works, but puts >unnessecary (IMHO) load on the server. > >You could also produce this with embedded [APPLESCRIPTS]. MacOS 8.5 is >supposed to have native Applescript so this combined with better threading >in WC 3.0 maybe makes this useful. > >But, of course, this *should* be handled native by WebCatalog. > Yep I agree about should be handled obviously. Another major reason would be that the dynamic swap.db woudl change over time. In other words, applying the convertchars to the founditems instead of when it is entered allows us to change those links, ads, swap, etc. on the fly. Altering the text on the way in is better then nothing, but would dramtically reduce the capabilities. I won't beat this into the ground anymore. I will just conclude with saying that I was rather taken back when i couldn't do this. Based on the other functionality already there I assumed it was my lack of understanding that was stopping me. I look forward to the resolution. Alex Alexander J. McCombie (800-724-8973) http://OurClients.com Corporate http://McCombie.FamilyMail.net Personal**NEVER-Changing** Mobile Email Addresses @ CompanyMail.net! In Upstate NY we have two Seasons... six months of winter and six months of poor snowmobiling
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On 8.27.98 2.25PM Christer Olsson was heard to say:>>On 8.27.98 6.46AM Christer Olsson was heard to say: >> >>>> I have been a long time user of Netforms for discussion forums. With >>>>Webcatalog there is a huge potential for much more advanced forums. This >>>>is not the case however if I cannot even create a list of vulgarities to >>>>be swapped. While many may find the issue minor, many of my customers >>>>wouldn't even talk about forums until they had the ability to 'filter' >>>>postings to limit their liability. >>> >>>We have used a solution with a banned.db containing: >>> >>>type value >>>word offensive >>>word language >>>email christer@ljusaideer.se >>>email nwmedia@embark.com >>>ip 194.218.021.030 >>>ip 194.218.021.031 >>> >>>Before adding any submissons we do a search in the banned.db and for each >>>hit on [word] we check if any of the text fiekds entered contains the >>>found, banned word. >>> >>>Then we do similar checks on email addresses entered and the IP the posting >>>is made from. >>> >>>If anything is found we simply send a Not allowed posting page. >>> >>>The example above would block postings containing the words offensive or >>>language, and would block me and Alex from posting under our real email >>>addresses, and block me from posting from the computers in my room in the >>>office. >> This is a similar setup to what I am coding now, but unfortunately a >>have a slew of customers that have grown to use the autolink feature of >>Netforms (words swapped on the fly) not only to remove vulgarities but in >>numerous advertising ways. >> >> >> Here is a more accurate and detailed need for WebCatalog to do this. >> >> Lets say I had a site based on Outdoor Activities. In one of many >>many discussion forums I have a user post the following: >> >> Hello everyone. I was just wondering what type of rifles you use for >>bear hunting. What would you suggest. Thanks >> >> >> What actually shows up is: >> >> >> Hello everyone. I was just wondering what type of
>href=results.tmpl?Command=search&cat=rifles&etc>>rifles you use for >>bear hunting. What would you suggest. Thanks >> >> >> As you can see, when dealing with online sales, using the discussion >>forums and other areas of 'interactive' text to further sales is >>critical. Now unless I have missed something, as has Ken, that would >>allow me to do this type of thing, I am at a disadvantage & unable to >>capitalize on the tons of user entered text to further my sales efforts. > >I fully understand your concept and I strongly suggest Grant to think this >over once more. Maybe he could do the work in two steps, so he doesn't have >to do the prefect solution the first time. > >Meanwhile I have done some work letting WebSiphon validate form entries and >then behind the curtains POST the entries to WebCatalog. It works, but puts >unnessecary (IMHO) load on the server. > >You could also produce this with embedded [APPLESCRIPTS]. MacOS 8.5 is >supposed to have native Applescript so this combined with better threading >in WC 3.0 maybe makes this useful. > >But, of course, this *should* be handled native by WebCatalog. > Yep I agree about should be handled obviously. Another major reason would be that the dynamic swap.db woudl change over time. In other words, applying the convertchars to the founditems instead of when it is entered allows us to change those links, ads, swap, etc. on the fly. Altering the text on the way in is better then nothing, but would dramtically reduce the capabilities. I won't beat this into the ground anymore. I will just conclude with saying that I was rather taken back when i couldn't do this. Based on the other functionality already there I assumed it was my lack of understanding that was stopping me. I look forward to the resolution. Alex Alexander J. McCombie (800-724-8973) http://OurClients.com Corporate http://McCombie.FamilyMail.net Personal**NEVER-Changing** Mobile Email Addresses @ CompanyMail.net! In Upstate NY we have two Seasons... six months of winter and six months of poor snowmobiling
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