Re: WebCat 3.04-3.07 plug-in dying on server....
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texte = Ken,At 5:10 PM -1000 03/6/00, Kenneth Grome wrote:>Bill,>>I've never seen webcatalog go deaf. My suggestion was meant to >separate webcatalog from webstar -- so you can possiibly eliminate >webstar as the cause of the problem.It's a good idea. As this is a working server, we'll try it this weekend on a early morning so as to not seriously affect traffic.> >As to the .acgi, apart from the suffix mapping (and the memory), is>>there anything else I should watch for? It's been a while since we've>>tried the .acgi, but it's worth a try...>>Not that I can think of off-hand. My gut feeling is that you may see >the same problems even after you replace the plugin with the cgi, >thus narrowing things down to either a bug in webcat or a coding >problem in one of your templatesIt's not going to be a coding problem because it's universal- among 15-20 sites with 5 different developers, so none of the code is all from one shop. Too much variety across the sites. I could see one shop's code breaking because of a consistent coding problem, but the upgrade breaks every site.As to why, we haven't got a clue. And why should it happen once we move to 3.04+? I didn't see any major changes in the recent revisions to WebCat, so I don't know why to problem. I dread the move to the .acgi because the performance is going to be greatly affected, but it's worth a try to see if that's the problem.Who knows. I'll keep you folks appraised of the results.Bill>>Hiya folks,>>>>I popped this onto the list before, but didn't have the time to>>really find the problems, however now I do, so...>>>>Situation: Moved from WebCat 3.03 plug-in (Mac) to 3.07 to fix some>>trigger/[date] problems and discovered that after an indeterminate>>period of time (20-60 minutes) the WebCat plug-in goes deaf and>>stops interpreting any WebDNA.>>>>Up until it goes deaf (which happens gradually) it works fine, and>>runs everything. Once it goes deaf, any page that has WebDNA on it>>(as defined by the at the top) just sits and>>spins, and the page will eventually time out.>>>>As it goes deaf we notice that it stops keeping track of shopping>>carts correctly (a cart that had 4 items in it will now only show the>>very last item added) and searches that are hard-coded for certain>>products start coming back with no items found.>>>>We're stumped. We've weeded out all the other plug-ins/cgi that might>>conflict, tried to update everything and even moved the server from>>WebSTAR 4.0 to 4.2 vainly hoping that it might fix the problem. We've>>tried other versions of the plug-in, and the dividing line is>>3.03/3.04. Everything works fine with 3.03, but once we go to 3.04 or>>greater, it breaks.>>>>I tried jacking up the memory for threads up to 96K and increased>>WebSTAR up to 100MB, but the problem still occurred.>>>>Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks>>>>Bill>>>>>>>>Here's our specs:>>>>G3/266 256/4GB>>MacOS 9.0/OT 2.6>>WebSTAR 4.2 (60MB RAM)>>SIMS 1.8b8>>Summary 1.4.2 (50-80 MB RAM)>>>>Server Plug-ins:>>countwwwebula-plugin 1.5>>Net.Dreams Flexmail 2.1.3> >Net.Dreams MailAgent Lite 1.2.1> >WebCatalog-Plugin 3.0.3> >WebSTAR Admin 4.2> >WebSTAR Admin Data 4.2> >WebSTAR Auto BinHex 4.2> >WebSTAR Byte Server 4.2> >WebSTAR Data Cache 4.2> >WebSTAR Directory Indexer 4.2>>WebSTAR File Upload 4.2>>WebSTAR Form Mail 4.2>>WebSTAR Image Map 4.2>>WebSTAR JRun Servlet Runner 4.2>>WebSTAR Log Archiver 4.2>>WebSTAR PowerKey Pro Tickler 4.2>>WebSTAR SSI 4.2>>WebSTAR SSI-WebInclude 4.2>>WebSTAR Virtual Hosts 4.2>>>>The WebCat settings are standard:>>>>Max found: 500>>Check for template mods every 300 sec.>>Autocommit DB after modification>>Seconds to wait for busy DB: 20>>Ticks between tread switches: 300>>Memory for threads: 48 K>>SSI: Before+After-- --Bill Heissenbuttel (bill@pagehouse.com) - http://www.pagehouseinc.comPageHouse, Inc. - Internet Commerce Solutions for Internet Professionals (509) 892-1973-PGP key ID: 0xE8544665 (http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE8544665) -------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list
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Ken,At 5:10 PM -1000 03/6/00, Kenneth Grome wrote:>Bill,>>I've never seen webcatalog go deaf. My suggestion was meant to >separate webcatalog from webstar -- so you can possiibly eliminate >webstar as the cause of the problem.It's a good idea. As this is a working server, we'll try it this weekend on a early morning so as to not seriously affect traffic.> >As to the .acgi, apart from the suffix mapping (and the memory), is>>there anything else I should watch for? It's been a while since we've>>tried the .acgi, but it's worth a try...>>Not that I can think of off-hand. My gut feeling is that you may see >the same problems even after you replace the plugin with the cgi, >thus narrowing things down to either a bug in webcat or a coding >problem in one of your templatesIt's not going to be a coding problem because it's universal- among 15-20 sites with 5 different developers, so none of the code is all from one shop. Too much variety across the sites. I could see one shop's code breaking because of a consistent coding problem, but the upgrade breaks every site.As to why, we haven't got a clue. And why should it happen once we move to 3.04+? I didn't see any major changes in the recent revisions to WebCat, so I don't know why to problem. I dread the move to the .acgi because the performance is going to be greatly affected, but it's worth a try to see if that's the problem.Who knows. I'll keep you folks appraised of the results.Bill>>Hiya folks,>>>>I popped this onto the list before, but didn't have the time to>>really find the problems, however now I do, so...>>>>Situation: Moved from WebCat 3.03 plug-in (Mac) to 3.07 to fix some>>trigger/[date] problems and discovered that after an indeterminate>>period of time (20-60 minutes) the WebCat plug-in goes deaf and>>stops interpreting any WebDNA.>>>>Up until it goes deaf (which happens gradually) it works fine, and>>runs everything. Once it goes deaf, any page that has WebDNA on it>>(as defined by the at the top) just sits and>>spins, and the page will eventually time out.>>>>As it goes deaf we notice that it stops keeping track of shopping>>carts correctly (a cart that had 4 items in it will now only show the>>very last item added) and searches that are hard-coded for certain>>products start coming back with no items found.>>>>We're stumped. We've weeded out all the other plug-ins/cgi that might>>conflict, tried to update everything and even moved the server from>>WebSTAR 4.0 to 4.2 vainly hoping that it might fix the problem. We've>>tried other versions of the plug-in, and the dividing line is>>3.03/3.04. Everything works fine with 3.03, but once we go to 3.04 or>>greater, it breaks.>>>>I tried jacking up the memory for threads up to 96K and increased>>WebSTAR up to 100MB, but the problem still occurred.>>>>Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks>>>>Bill>>>>>>>>Here's our specs:>>>>G3/266 256/4GB>>MacOS 9.0/OT 2.6>>WebSTAR 4.2 (60MB RAM)>>SIMS 1.8b8>>Summary 1.4.2 (50-80 MB RAM)>>>>Server Plug-ins:>>countwwwebula-plugin 1.5>>Net.Dreams Flexmail 2.1.3> >Net.Dreams MailAgent Lite 1.2.1> >WebCatalog-Plugin 3.0.3> >WebSTAR Admin 4.2> >WebSTAR Admin Data 4.2> >WebSTAR Auto BinHex 4.2> >WebSTAR Byte Server 4.2> >WebSTAR Data Cache 4.2> >WebSTAR Directory Indexer 4.2>>WebSTAR File Upload 4.2>>WebSTAR Form Mail 4.2>>WebSTAR Image Map 4.2>>WebSTAR JRun Servlet Runner 4.2>>WebSTAR Log Archiver 4.2>>WebSTAR PowerKey Pro Tickler 4.2>>WebSTAR SSI 4.2>>WebSTAR SSI-WebInclude 4.2>>WebSTAR Virtual Hosts 4.2>>>>The WebCat settings are standard:>>>>Max found: 500>>Check for template mods every 300 sec.>>Autocommit DB after modification>>Seconds to wait for busy DB: 20>>Ticks between tread switches: 300>>Memory for threads: 48 K>>SSI: Before+After-- --Bill Heissenbuttel (bill@pagehouse.com) - http://www.pagehouseinc.comPageHouse, Inc. - Internet Commerce Solutions for Internet Professionals (509) 892-1973-PGP key ID: 0xE8544665 (http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE8544665) -------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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