Re: New syntax feedback for 4.0
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = In view of the requirement under xHTML that _all_ parameters be quoted, I think that has to be your answer. It will not matter now, it may not matter for a year or two, but if you are going to change it now, you might as well do it the right way from the outset.John Peacock ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: New syntax feedback for 4.0 Author:
Date: 3/20/00 4:47 PMHey guys, we are entering into the decision phase for our DreamWeaver syntax for 4.0, and I'd like to open up a small discussion to help me decide which way to go. This information is confidential, and should not be discussed outside this list.Background: WebDNA's [] syntax tends to make most GUI editors like DreamWeaver get confused. We decided Mohammed should go to the mountain in this case, so we are modifying WebCatalog's syntax to match what GUI editors expect to see.So for 4.0, one can optionally write two different kinds of snytax in WebDNA:[Loop start=1&end=10] [index] [/Loop]or This works well for most contexts, but there are a few exceptions that can confuse most parsers. Specifically, ShowIf can contain characters like > which look just like HTML to a parser:3> ^ looks a lot like followed by a 3..so one solution is to force all contexts to use named/quoted parameters:3>.but that's really starting to look stupid. I'm not so worried about the amount of typing involved, because the GUI editor is going to be doing most of the work anyway, but it still looks pretty weird, and I think it's hard to follow.Another solution would be to change the syntax of ShowIf itself:..but I don't like this one because it requires a lot more than a simple global search and replace in a text editor to make this kind of change to pre-existing old-style WebDNA code.There's also a hybrid approach that would allow both a named- and non-named syntax to be allowed:3> or 3>The first is more easily readable by people hand-tying the code, and the second is more easily parsed by GUI editors. I'm leaning toward that one.Thanks for your feedback!Grant Hulbert, Director of Engineering ********************************** Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) 16855 West Bernardo Drive, #380 | ------------------------- San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development Main Line: (858) 675-1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com Fax: (858) 675-0372 **********************************############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to
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In view of the requirement under xHTML that _all_ parameters be quoted, I think that has to be your answer. It will not matter now, it may not matter for a year or two, but if you are going to change it now, you might as well do it the right way from the outset.John Peacock ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: New syntax feedback for 4.0 Author: Date: 3/20/00 4:47 PMHey guys, we are entering into the decision phase for our DreamWeaver syntax for 4.0, and I'd like to open up a small discussion to help me decide which way to go. This information is confidential, and should not be discussed outside this list.Background: WebDNA's [] syntax tends to make most GUI editors like DreamWeaver get confused. We decided Mohammed should go to the mountain in this case, so we are modifying WebCatalog's syntax to match what GUI editors expect to see.So for 4.0, one can optionally write two different kinds of snytax in WebDNA:[Loop start=1&end=10] [index] [/Loop]or This works well for most contexts, but there are a few exceptions that can confuse most parsers. Specifically, ShowIf can contain characters like > which look just like HTML to a parser:3> ^ looks a lot like followed by a 3..so one solution is to force all contexts to use named/quoted parameters:3>.but that's really starting to look stupid. I'm not so worried about the amount of typing involved, because the GUI editor is going to be doing most of the work anyway, but it still looks pretty weird, and I think it's hard to follow.Another solution would be to change the syntax of ShowIf itself:..but I don't like this one because it requires a lot more than a simple global search and replace in a text editor to make this kind of change to pre-existing old-style WebDNA code.There's also a hybrid approach that would allow both a named- and non-named syntax to be allowed:3> or 3>The first is more easily readable by people hand-tying the code, and the second is more easily parsed by GUI editors. I'm leaning toward that one.Thanks for your feedback!Grant Hulbert, Director of Engineering ********************************** Smith Micro, Internet Solutions Div | eCommerce (WebCatalog) 16855 West Bernardo Drive, #380 | ------------------------- San Diego, CA 92127 | Software & Site Development Main Line: (858) 675-1106 | http://www.smithmicro.com Fax: (858) 675-0372 **********************************############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to Send administrative queries to
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