Re: when to use SQL over webcat?
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texte = John,I seem to remember that thread. I think I was the one that asked the original question.Grant's answer indicated that there was a point of saturation with large databases with many records in WebCatalog where the time to complete a function such as a search on data in RAM started to become slower than the time to make a call to an SQL database on another server and have that server return the results.I don't recall that he knew exactly what that point of saturation was because I think it varies from one situation to the next.I know this sounds vague, but I think at this point many of us have proven that you will run into deadlock and thread problems long before you reach that saturation point he was referring to.Paul>Once while cruising the archives, I read a post where Grant gave his >recommendation >when SQL was preferred/needed over webcat. If my memory is right, >then among other >things he said. ..when the data needs to be shared across more than >server... (not >an exact quote) > >That was a pretty old post (and plus I am not finding it now) so I >want to ask this >question again as we are working on a portal that will hopefully >quickly outgrow >anything we plan/build now ;-) > >Assuming *tons* (how many daily users does a low-mediumly popular >portal get?) of >unique users mostly reading from db's, but ~several hundred-1,000 >of them writing to >those same few db's daily.... > >at what point would SQL be the recommendation over webcat? >Only when more than one box was needed to run the works? Or >sometimes sooner than >that? > >What are key issues to consider? > >-John > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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John,I seem to remember that thread. I think I was the one that asked the original question.Grant's answer indicated that there was a point of saturation with large databases with many records in WebCatalog where the time to complete a function such as a search on data in RAM started to become slower than the time to make a call to an SQL database on another server and have that server return the results.I don't recall that he knew exactly what that point of saturation was because I think it varies from one situation to the next.I know this sounds vague, but I think at this point many of us have proven that you will run into deadlock and thread problems long before you reach that saturation point he was referring to.Paul>Once while cruising the archives, I read a post where Grant gave his >recommendation >when SQL was preferred/needed over webcat. If my memory is right, >then among other >things he said. ..when the data needs to be shared across more than >server... (not >an exact quote) > >That was a pretty old post (and plus I am not finding it now) so I >want to ask this >question again as we are working on a portal that will hopefully >quickly outgrow >anything we plan/build now ;-) > >Assuming *tons* (how many daily users does a low-mediumly popular >portal get?) of >unique users mostly reading from db's, but ~several hundred-1,000 >of them writing to >those same few db's daily.... > >at what point would SQL be the recommendation over webcat? >Only when more than one box was needed to run the works? Or >sometimes sooner than >that? > >What are key issues to consider? > >-John > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Interactive Ink, Inc._\_\_ \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Business - _\_\_\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/ Real Estate - _\_\_\_\_ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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