Re: log out
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texte = Yes and no...Read this:http://www.iwon.com/ct/help/webtv_overview.html>Does anyone know if WebTV supports cookies?>>I am also working on a login system, actually have it done, just not in>production yet. It uses a sessions database and currently allows for a 2>hour timeout. The timeout is set in global variable. My users are also not>required to login, it is just that if they don't they are limited in what>they can do.>>I guess I should consider making it global, with the option for the user to>override the time so they can set their own timeout value as they know their>usage habits better than I.>>I decided against cookies as the sole means of tracking sessions due to many>users having cookies turned off and having about 10-15% of my users (of this>particular site) using some sort of set-top device like WebTV.>>> From: Will Starck
>> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)>> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:31:39>> To: (WebCatalog Talk)>> Subject: Re: log out>>>> There is no perfect scheme because of the disparity with which browsers>> handle the situation.>>>> I like using session cookies for authentication because you can set their>> value to null or whatever when the person logs out, and redirect to a login>> page by testing whether the cookie has been set or not. You can also set>> them to expire after a certain time interval as an extra (albeit imperfect)>> measure of protection.>>>>>>> I have tried to tell him to just let the user know to close the browser>>> after he is done.>>>> This wouldn't make me comfortable if I was your client ;)>>>> I wonder if there might be a script or javascript solution that would force>> quit the browser after a certain period of inactivity?>>>> Will Starck>> NovaDerm>> skin care science>> support@novaderm.com>> 800-378-1740>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----->> From: Arturo Vargas >> To: WebCatalog Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:57 PM>> Subject: Re: log out>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't use the [protect] tag, since the customer needs to be able to>> setup>>>> new passwords for his new clients.>>>> That and it wont make any difference.>>>>>> So he is incapable of adding new usernames and pw's to a db? How's he>> gonna>>> add them to the db that authenticate uses?>>> *By using the [authenticate] tag he can just add usernames and passwords>> to>>> a database. I don't know how he could do this if I was to use the>> [protect]>>> tag>>>>>> Yes, it will make a difference, but neither approach will stop a user from> >> walking away from the machine while logged on. You'll have to set a timer> > to> >> check for action on the user's part to log them out automatically. Even> >> then, someone could access the machine before the timer goes off.>>> *I meant it wont make a difference as far as my problem goes, the browser>>> will remember the username and password in either case.>>>>>> You're trying to make something foolproof and fools will outsmart you>> every>>> time.>>> *I know what you are saying, but this is a feature that the customer>> wants.>>> I have tried to tell him to just let the user know to close the browser>>> after he is done.>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- _______________________Clint DavisWebmasterGray Loon Marketing Group812.422.9999cdavis@grayloon.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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Yes and no...Read this:http://www.iwon.com/ct/help/webtv_overview.html>Does anyone know if WebTV supports cookies?>>I am also working on a login system, actually have it done, just not in>production yet. It uses a sessions database and currently allows for a 2>hour timeout. The timeout is set in global variable. My users are also not>required to login, it is just that if they don't they are limited in what>they can do.>>I guess I should consider making it global, with the option for the user to>override the time so they can set their own timeout value as they know their>usage habits better than I.>>I decided against cookies as the sole means of tracking sessions due to many>users having cookies turned off and having about 10-15% of my users (of this>particular site) using some sort of set-top device like WebTV.>>> From: Will Starck >> Reply-To: (WebCatalog Talk)>> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:31:39>> To: (WebCatalog Talk)>> Subject: Re: log out>>>> There is no perfect scheme because of the disparity with which browsers>> handle the situation.>>>> I like using session cookies for authentication because you can set their>> value to null or whatever when the person logs out, and redirect to a login>> page by testing whether the cookie has been set or not. You can also set>> them to expire after a certain time interval as an extra (albeit imperfect)>> measure of protection.>>>>>>> I have tried to tell him to just let the user know to close the browser>>> after he is done.>>>> This wouldn't make me comfortable if I was your client ;)>>>> I wonder if there might be a script or javascript solution that would force>> quit the browser after a certain period of inactivity?>>>> Will Starck>> NovaDerm>> skin care science>> support@novaderm.com>> 800-378-1740>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----->> From: Arturo Vargas >> To: WebCatalog Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 3:57 PM>> Subject: Re: log out>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't use the [protect] tag, since the customer needs to be able to>> setup>>>> new passwords for his new clients.>>>> That and it wont make any difference.>>>>>> So he is incapable of adding new usernames and pw's to a db? How's he>> gonna>>> add them to the db that authenticate uses?>>> *By using the [authenticate] tag he can just add usernames and passwords>> to>>> a database. I don't know how he could do this if I was to use the>> [protect]>>> tag>>>>>> Yes, it will make a difference, but neither approach will stop a user from> >> walking away from the machine while logged on. You'll have to set a timer> > to> >> check for action on the user's part to log them out automatically. Even> >> then, someone could access the machine before the timer goes off.>>> *I meant it wont make a difference as far as my problem goes, the browser>>> will remember the username and password in either case.>>>>>> You're trying to make something foolproof and fools will outsmart you>> every>>> time.>>> *I know what you are saying, but this is a feature that the customer>> wants.>>> I have tried to tell him to just let the user know to close the browser>>> after he is done.>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- _______________________Clint DavisWebmasterGray Loon Marketing Group812.422.9999cdavis@grayloon.com-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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