Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache)
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texte = Aaron,Thanks for the response, but .htaccess is not a fine enough control, unless things have radically changed with .htaccess over the years and I'm missing those details.My understanding of .htaccess, is: 1. no way to tie it into webcatalog 2. you protect a directory, rather than individual pieces within the directory (see example below) 3. I'm using session management (cookies, and back-end tracking) to determine who is logged in and what access they should have, that does NOT use the standard basic authentication browser mechanisms, therefore not possible to seamlessly integrate (from user experience) moving between the two login systemsTherefore, managing different levels of access to collections of documents isn't possible with simple realm protection, but I could be wrong.MORE DETAILS: What I'm talking about is we have thousands of PDFs and MOVs, as well as webcatalog db served information, and people buy slices of these collections.FOR EXAMPLE: One buyer purchases report aOne buyer purchases report bOne buyer purchases both report a and report b as a combination offering, also gets access to some limited database-served informationOne buyer purchases all reports a-z gets access to everything - PDFs, MOVs, databasesUsing John Hill's plugin, I essentially set up product groupings, and specify: IF buyer purchases all reports a-z, allow access to everything (files/dbs) ELSE IF buyer purchases both report a and report b, allow access to those and access to some limited database-served information ELSE IF buyer purchases report b, allow access to just that ELSE IF buyer purchases report a, allow access to just that ENDIFBasically, there are a number of superset/subset relationships that we have built-up in our system, that John's plugin handles quite well and without duplicating either the access database, or the files that need to be protected. So, what we're looking for is either additional functionality in webcatalog directly, that intercepts calls for certain PDFs, MOVs, images, and HTML formatted reports, in the same way that we can restrict access to specific native webcatalog dbs.Is that a more useful explanation of the issue? -- Dan Keldsen - djk@delphigroup.com Delphi Group - www.delphigroup.com Ten Post Office Square - ph: 617-247-1511 Boston, MA 02109 - fax:617-247-4957Delphi Group is a global business advisor and strategic market maker focusing on the intersection of business and IT.Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:16:59 Subject: Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) From: Aaron Lynch
Do a google search for .htaccess. You can force authentication on a folder or an entire subtree.On 10/21/02 9:31 AM, Dan Keldsen mashed the following keys :> Hi listers - been a while since I last posted. Good to see the usual > suspects are still around, as well as new faces! > > I'm still missing a piece or two that I need to transition to OSX for my > WebCatalog serving needs. Specifically, I'm currently using John Hill's realm > plugin to manage access rights from a webcatalog database to a few thousand > PDFs that need to have access/deny protection based on the > packages/collections that clients have bought. PDFs and audio/video > (quicktime) files are what we're needing to protect. > > Anybody have a solution that makes it possible to do something like this > without having to export/synchronize with another solution? > > Barring that, anyone have ANY solution whatsoever for OS X? I'd thrown out my > applescript kludge last year to accomplish this sort of thing, but we've > gotten far more complex than that solution would allow for.------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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Aaron,Thanks for the response, but .htaccess is not a fine enough control, unless things have radically changed with .htaccess over the years and I'm missing those details.My understanding of .htaccess, is: 1. no way to tie it into webcatalog 2. you protect a directory, rather than individual pieces within the directory (see example below) 3. I'm using session management (cookies, and back-end tracking) to determine who is logged in and what access they should have, that does NOT use the standard basic authentication browser mechanisms, therefore not possible to seamlessly integrate (from user experience) moving between the two login systemsTherefore, managing different levels of access to collections of documents isn't possible with simple realm protection, but I could be wrong.MORE DETAILS: What I'm talking about is we have thousands of PDFs and MOVs, as well as webcatalog db served information, and people buy slices of these collections.FOR EXAMPLE: One buyer purchases report aOne buyer purchases report bOne buyer purchases both report a and report b as a combination offering, also gets access to some limited database-served informationOne buyer purchases all reports a-z gets access to everything - PDFs, MOVs, databasesUsing John Hill's plugin, I essentially set up product groupings, and specify: IF buyer purchases all reports a-z, allow access to everything (files/dbs) ELSE IF buyer purchases both report a and report b, allow access to those and access to some limited database-served information ELSE IF buyer purchases report b, allow access to just that ELSE IF buyer purchases report a, allow access to just that ENDIFBasically, there are a number of superset/subset relationships that we have built-up in our system, that John's plugin handles quite well and without duplicating either the access database, or the files that need to be protected. So, what we're looking for is either additional functionality in webcatalog directly, that intercepts calls for certain PDFs, MOVs, images, and HTML formatted reports, in the same way that we can restrict access to specific native webcatalog dbs.Is that a more useful explanation of the issue? -- Dan Keldsen - djk@delphigroup.com Delphi Group - www.delphigroup.com Ten Post Office Square - ph: 617-247-1511 Boston, MA 02109 - fax:617-247-4957Delphi Group is a global business advisor and strategic market maker focusing on the intersection of business and IT.Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:16:59 Subject: Re: Non HTML file protection - OS X (webstar or apache) From: Aaron Lynch Do a google search for .htaccess. You can force authentication on a folder or an entire subtree.On 10/21/02 9:31 AM, Dan Keldsen mashed the following keys :> Hi listers - been a while since I last posted. Good to see the usual > suspects are still around, as well as new faces! > > I'm still missing a piece or two that I need to transition to OSX for my > WebCatalog serving needs. Specifically, I'm currently using John Hill's realm > plugin to manage access rights from a webcatalog database to a few thousand > PDFs that need to have access/deny protection based on the > packages/collections that clients have bought. PDFs and audio/video > (quicktime) files are what we're needing to protect. > > Anybody have a solution that makes it possible to do something like this > without having to export/synchronize with another solution? > > Barring that, anyone have ANY solution whatsoever for OS X? I'd thrown out my > applescript kludge last year to accomplish this sort of thing, but we've > gotten far more complex than that solution would allow for.------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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