Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable)

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2007


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = But seriously guys - why are you so stressing about more features?=20 Not that I am against new functionality in WebDNA - don't take me wrong. = But with what it has already, my developers build enterprise level = projects for fortune 1000 clients on this platform - from intranets to = portals. Yes - you can't build a business decision support app or real-time = publishing automtion system, but that's not what it is for and we have = other tools for these purposes. The only concern I may have for few more years ahead - support for new = OS releases. Otherwise, SmithMicro can concentrate on everything else = (or sell WebDNA to me :)) It's even better btw they are busy with other = apps - they were scaring customers away with ugly intranet editions and = claims of development capabilities. Cheers. tim -----Original Message----- From: "Stuart Tremain" To: "WebDNA Talk" Sent: 4/12/07 6:42 PM Subject: Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) I wonder how SMSI would react if there was a NEGATIVE view of the =20 company expressed to the public !!! Do you think that they would pull their finger out and make some =20 repairs to their image ? On 12 Apr 2007, at 8:54 PM, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > I didn't mean to start another doom and gloom thread. > As long as SMI uses WebDNA to power their own website I feel we are =20 > safe. > > Also, since SMI is a public company, they need to be very careful =20 > what they announce to the public. Any hint of bad news will change =20 > the stock. As long as they are announcing progress in other =20 > projects they don't have to worry about news regarding WebDNA. > > I've had my share of dealings with the stock market (used to be a =20 > stock broker, VP of a public company and on the BOD of another =20 > public company) and I know that good news and press releases always =20 > help a stock price. With that I wonder if anyone is working on =20 > large projects that, if announced to SMI and the public, could help =20 > SMI's stock price. Nothing motivated a public company more than =20 > stock price raising news. I have a few such projects, does anyone =20 > else? > > --=20 > Matthew A Perosi > Psi Prime, Inc. > http://www.psiprime.com > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > P: 973.225.9870 > F: 973.413.8217 > > > > Mark Derrick wrote: > >> I am beginning to worry that the apparent "winding down" of WebDNA =20 >> is starting to bite more and more. >> I've always been aware of this issue, but thought that as long as =20 >> I had a working system, I could continue running it for as long =20 >> as I wished until I was ready to change. >> What's becoming more and more apparent, is that as the existing =20 >> bugs are becoming a barrier to progress, it's looking harder and =20 >> harder to continue supporting the product in live service. >> >> Mark. >> >> On 12 Apr 2007, at 11:26, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> >>> Le Pham is actually a 'her' not a 'him'. >>> My contact told me a few months ago that she has not worked at =20 >>> SMI for about a year. >>> From what I understand, one of the last projects she worked on =20 >>> was an attempt to compile a version 6.0 that would run on 64 =20 >>> bit linux. Sadly I was told it could not "currently" be done =20 >>> and Doug Deck recommended I reinstall my 64 bit server with the =20 >>> 32 bit version of Red Hat ES4 >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> Mark Derrick wrote: >>> >>>> Great stuff. >>>> If you could email me a copy of the newer plugin for me to try, =20 >>>> I'd be a very happy bunny indeed! >>>> Does Le Pham still work for SM? do you have an email I can =20 >>>> reach him at? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help with this. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 Apr 2007, at 23:26, Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr. wrote: >>>> >>>>>> There is also a thread somewhere where Rob Forest was able =20 >>>>>> to confirm that the problem was in WebDNA (including version =20 >>>>>> 6.0), using my code. I cannot find that thread, however. =20 >>>>>> It may have occurred on the WebSTAR talk list. Kerio does =20 >>>>>> not seem to have an archive from that period on-line. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok... I was able to find the thread where we discussed the =20 >>>>> solution. It occurred via email. Rob and I were in contact =20 >>>>> with one of the Smith Micro developers, Le Pham. The last =20 >>>>> email pertaining to this problem contained a new version of =20 >>>>> the WebDNA plugin. I am not sure if this plugin was ever =20 >>>>> released by Smith Micro. This plugin shows up in the WebStar =20 >>>>> Launcher window as version 6.1, but when viewing it via the =20 >>>>> WebDNA Statistics page in the WebDNA admin, it is listed as =20 >>>>> version 6.0. If you want a copy of this file, let me know. =20 >>>>> It might solve your problem. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> Matthew A Perosi >>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> P: 973.225.9870 >>> F: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to = Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Mark Derrick 2007)
  2. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Palle Bo Nielsen 2007)
  3. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Matthew A Perosi 2007)
  4. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
  5. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Paul Willis 2007)
  6. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( "Timur Ruban" 2007)
  7. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Stuart Tremain 2007)
  8. Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
  9. WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) ( Matthew A Perosi 2007)
But seriously guys - why are you so stressing about more features?=20 Not that I am against new functionality in WebDNA - don't take me wrong. = But with what it has already, my developers build enterprise level = projects for fortune 1000 clients on this platform - from intranets to = portals. Yes - you can't build a business decision support app or real-time = publishing automtion system, but that's not what it is for and we have = other tools for these purposes. The only concern I may have for few more years ahead - support for new = OS releases. Otherwise, SmithMicro can concentrate on everything else = (or sell WebDNA to me :)) It's even better btw they are busy with other = apps - they were scaring customers away with ugly intranet editions and = claims of development capabilities. Cheers. tim -----Original Message----- From: "Stuart Tremain" To: "WebDNA Talk" Sent: 4/12/07 6:42 PM Subject: Re: WebDNA Life Cycle (was Form POSTing with LONG variable) I wonder how SMSI would react if there was a NEGATIVE view of the =20 company expressed to the public !!! Do you think that they would pull their finger out and make some =20 repairs to their image ? On 12 Apr 2007, at 8:54 PM, Matthew A Perosi wrote: > I didn't mean to start another doom and gloom thread. > As long as SMI uses WebDNA to power their own website I feel we are =20 > safe. > > Also, since SMI is a public company, they need to be very careful =20 > what they announce to the public. Any hint of bad news will change =20 > the stock. As long as they are announcing progress in other =20 > projects they don't have to worry about news regarding WebDNA. > > I've had my share of dealings with the stock market (used to be a =20 > stock broker, VP of a public company and on the BOD of another =20 > public company) and I know that good news and press releases always =20 > help a stock price. With that I wonder if anyone is working on =20 > large projects that, if announced to SMI and the public, could help =20 > SMI's stock price. Nothing motivated a public company more than =20 > stock price raising news. I have a few such projects, does anyone =20 > else? > > --=20 > Matthew A Perosi > Psi Prime, Inc. > http://www.psiprime.com > 323 Union Blvd. > Totowa, NJ 07512 > P: 973.225.9870 > F: 973.413.8217 > > > > Mark Derrick wrote: > >> I am beginning to worry that the apparent "winding down" of WebDNA =20 >> is starting to bite more and more. >> I've always been aware of this issue, but thought that as long as =20 >> I had a working system, I could continue running it for as long =20 >> as I wished until I was ready to change. >> What's becoming more and more apparent, is that as the existing =20 >> bugs are becoming a barrier to progress, it's looking harder and =20 >> harder to continue supporting the product in live service. >> >> Mark. >> >> On 12 Apr 2007, at 11:26, Matthew A Perosi wrote: >> >>> Le Pham is actually a 'her' not a 'him'. >>> My contact told me a few months ago that she has not worked at =20 >>> SMI for about a year. >>> From what I understand, one of the last projects she worked on =20 >>> was an attempt to compile a version 6.0 that would run on 64 =20 >>> bit linux. Sadly I was told it could not "currently" be done =20 >>> and Doug Deck recommended I reinstall my 64 bit server with the =20 >>> 32 bit version of Red Hat ES4 >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> Mark Derrick wrote: >>> >>>> Great stuff. >>>> If you could email me a copy of the newer plugin for me to try, =20 >>>> I'd be a very happy bunny indeed! >>>> Does Le Pham still work for SM? do you have an email I can =20 >>>> reach him at? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for your help with this. >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 Apr 2007, at 23:26, Dennis J. Bonsall, Jr. wrote: >>>> >>>>>> There is also a thread somewhere where Rob Forest was able =20 >>>>>> to confirm that the problem was in WebDNA (including version =20 >>>>>> 6.0), using my code. I cannot find that thread, however. =20 >>>>>> It may have occurred on the WebSTAR Talk List. Kerio does =20 >>>>>> not seem to have an archive from that period on-line. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ok... I was able to find the thread where we discussed the =20 >>>>> solution. It occurred via email. Rob and I were in contact =20 >>>>> with one of the Smith Micro developers, Le Pham. The last =20 >>>>> email pertaining to this problem contained a new version of =20 >>>>> the WebDNA plugin. I am not sure if this plugin was ever =20 >>>>> released by Smith Micro. This plugin shows up in the WebStar =20 >>>>> Launcher window as version 6.1, but when viewing it via the =20 >>>>> WebDNA Statistics page in the WebDNA admin, it is listed as =20 >>>>> version 6.0. If you want a copy of this file, let me know. =20 >>>>> It might solve your problem. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>>> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --=20 >>> Matthew A Perosi >>> Psi Prime, Inc. >>> http://www.psiprime.com >>> 323 Union Blvd. >>> Totowa, NJ 07512 >>> P: 973.225.9870 >>> F: 973.413.8217 >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > digest@talk.smithmicro.com> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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