Re: [WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard

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2009

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texte = When I first saw it and tried it I loved the concept !!Then it stopped working, I asked and asked and asked and got no response :(I believe that it would be a very useful tool, an edge for you to use as a "we are great because ...." argument. Using these tools provides developers far greater integration possibilities and therefore greater ability to stay with WebDNA and promote it rather than go to PHP where the same type of service can be found in many different places.There are many services out there that have PHP, ASP flavours etc, ever found one that says "Click here for the WebDNA" version ? A tool like this is often the way to create a WebDNA version without having to spend hours working it out myself.Please at least have a look at it, but don't keep it for the EE version- have it on ALL versions !Use it to promote and build on the great product that you have.I would also love to see an expansion of the XML tools or a simpler way of dealing with XML within WebDNA, at the moment the docs are confusing and developing applications based around imported XML can be very tedious.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12/03/2009, at 4:11 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:> Hello DNA'ers!,>> We are nearing a point where we have to decide what to> do with the WSDL Wizzard for WebDNA, and I'd like to> get some comments or opinions.>> I don't know that> many people use this as it was only available for a> short time before SMSI stopped support for WebDNA and perhaps> before the spec changed (or servers changed) which, I think,> caused the app to fail. It was also only available in the> EE version of WebDNA.>> .. a bit about "the wizzard"..>> From my shallow understanding, the idea is that you> can look for web services out there on> the internet, interrogate the services, and then spit out> code (WebDNA/XML) to use those services. Services could be> whatever.. weather, realty, shipping etc.. It seems like> a nice idea that has only marginally caught on in larger community.> However, I still see signs of life in quite a lot of areas..> PHP forums, IDE's (NetBeans) etc..>> Here is more on the subject for those that are interested:> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Services_Description_Language> http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20/> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDDI> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Object_Access_Protocol>>> Scope and Status of "the Wizzard":> There was *a lot* of work done implementing this stuff> into WebDNA. Unfortunately,> as it sits right now, It doesn't appear to work. Why?> Well, I don't know exactly but I am guessing it has to do> with protocol changes and services that have gone unsupported> or that have changed in the last years. I haven't looked> into this at any real depth yet, and currently, there is> noone in the development team that is a WSDL Guru! So, we> are all kind of shoving it to the corner and sneering at> it once in a while knowing we will have to deal with it> soon. ;-)>> So, we are approaching a time where we need to make some decisions> with this feature. Do we invest in this WSDL thing to continue> support for it? Do we can it?>> What is your experience with WSDL?>> Thanks,> Donovan>>>>>> -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822> ------------------------------------------------> VP> WebDNA Software Corporation> 16192 Coastal Highway> Lewes, DE 19958> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: [WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard (Patrick McCormick 2009)
Re: [WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard (Donovan Brooke 2009)
RE: [WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard ("Olin Lagon" 2009)
Re: [WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard (Stuart Tremain 2009)
[WebDNA] WSDL Wizzard (Donovan Brooke 2009)

When I first saw it and tried it I loved the concept !!Then it stopped working, I asked and asked and asked and got no response :(I believe that it would be a very useful tool, an edge for you to use as a "we are great because ...." argument. Using these tools provides developers far greater integration possibilities and therefore greater ability to stay with WebDNA and promote it rather than go to PHP where the same type of service can be found in many different places.There are many services out there that have PHP, ASP flavours etc, ever found one that says "Click here for the WebDNA" version ? A tool like this is often the way to create a WebDNA version without having to spend hours working it out myself.Please at least have a look at it, but don't keep it for the EE version- have it on ALL versions !Use it to promote and build on the great product that you have.I would also love to see an expansion of the XML tools or a simpler way of dealing with XML within WebDNA, at the moment the docs are confusing and developing applications based around imported XML can be very tedious.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12/03/2009, at 4:11 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote:> Hello DNA'ers!,>> We are nearing a point where we have to decide what to> do with the WSDL Wizzard for WebDNA, and I'd like to> get some comments or opinions.>> I don't know that> many people use this as it was only available for a> short time before SMSI stopped support for WebDNA and perhaps> before the spec changed (or servers changed) which, I think,> caused the app to fail. It was also only available in the> EE version of WebDNA.>> .. a bit about "the wizzard"..>> From my shallow understanding, the idea is that you> can look for web services out there on> the internet, interrogate the services, and then spit out> code (WebDNA/XML) to use those services. Services could be> whatever.. weather, realty, shipping etc.. It seems like> a nice idea that has only marginally caught on in larger community.> However, I still see signs of life in quite a lot of areas..> PHP forums, IDE's (NetBeans) etc..>> Here is more on the subject for those that are interested:> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Services_Description_Language> http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl20/> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UDDI> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Object_Access_Protocol>>> Scope and Status of "the Wizzard":> There was *a lot* of work done implementing this stuff> into WebDNA. Unfortunately,> as it sits right now, It doesn't appear to work. Why?> Well, I don't know exactly but I am guessing it has to do> with protocol changes and services that have gone unsupported> or that have changed in the last years. I haven't looked> into this at any real depth yet, and currently, there is> noone in the development team that is a WSDL Guru! So, we> are all kind of shoving it to the corner and sneering at> it once in a while knowing we will have to deal with it> soon. ;-)>> So, we are approaching a time where we need to make some decisions> with this feature. Do we invest in this WSDL thing to continue> support for it? Do we can it?>> What is your experience with WSDL?>> Thanks,> Donovan>>>>>> -- > Donovan D. Brooke PH: 1 (608) 770-3822> ------------------------------------------------> VP> WebDNA Software Corporation> 16192 Coastal Highway> Lewes, DE 19958> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ Stuart Tremain

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