Re: [WebDNA] webdna email breaking
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 107097
interpreted = N
texte = Hi - 1) I wouldn't do the multi BCC method as the large ESP's are too smart=20 for them now. 2) If it were me and I wanted to do bulk email with webdna I would do=20 either of these: a) Run a local version of PostFix for webdna to send to. Webdna can=20 write to Postfix and let Postfix do what it does best, relay and send=20 out your mail (and lots of it). b) If you can't use Postfix, don't use Webdna's internal mailing,=20 instead write the emails to your local mail service's outgoing directory=20 (I did this back in the 90's and it seemed to work more reliably for=20 bulk email). Bulk email these days is getting harder and harder that's why a lot of=20 people are switching to services like: http://sendgrid.com/ https://www.madmimi.com/ These services are usually affordable and often developer friendly. Hope this helps. Best, Adam On 7/27/11 3:42 PM, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: > The problem is that I've spent good time (apparently wasted?!) creating= an internal system to provide those features for the client. > > My application: > > 1. Can create html emails using tinyMCE > 2. Automatically strips html version to plain text to provide multipart= /alernative content (big + for getting through spam filters) > 3. Manages dynamic contact lists from master contacts databases with ab= ility to apply results filters > 4. Tracks click-throughs from unique values inserted into urls > 5. Is part of a total-solution internal CMS > > > My problem: > > webDNA email chokes every 2-6 messages > > It seems like webDNA should be able to handle this and there is some so= lution... > > I really hope I haven't been wasting my time > > > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Olin Lagon wrote: > >> What about using VerticalResponse.com? I would recommend exporting you= r list and then importing into a system like Vertical Response. That way = you can maintain can spam compliance plus they have incredible metrics to= show open rates, click throughs etc. You can import dozens of custom fie= lds so you can easily customize each outgoing email. >> >> aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >>> Following up from the bulk email, solution=85.. i ran a loop to perfo= rm a sendmail for each email address on the list=85.. >>> >>> Now it seems that every few e-mails, the email stops working and the = only solution is to stop web cat, remove the "stuck" email in the emailFo= lder queue, and then start again. I tried setting the ticks to a slow sp= eed, but that didn't help. Its as if every few emails are corrupt. >>> >>> This is extremely frustrating. This has happened in the past even wh= en I wasn't sending mass e-mails. Every now and then, one would just get= "stuck". >>> >>> I'm running v6.2 on windows server 2003 iis6 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list
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Hi - 1) I wouldn't do the multi BCC method as the large ESP's are too smart=20 for them now. 2) If it were me and I wanted to do bulk email with webdna I would do=20 either of these: a) Run a local version of PostFix for webdna to send to. Webdna can=20 write to Postfix and let Postfix do what it does best, relay and send=20 out your mail (and lots of it). b) If you can't use Postfix, don't use Webdna's internal mailing,=20 instead write the emails to your local mail service's outgoing directory=20 (I did this back in the 90's and it seemed to work more reliably for=20 bulk email). Bulk email these days is getting harder and harder that's why a lot of=20 people are switching to services like: http://sendgrid.com/ https://www.madmimi.com/ These services are usually affordable and often developer friendly. Hope this helps. Best, Adam On 7/27/11 3:42 PM, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: > The problem is that I've spent good time (apparently wasted?!) creating= an internal system to provide those features for the client. > > My application: > > 1. Can create html emails using tinyMCE > 2. Automatically strips html version to plain text to provide multipart= /alernative content (big + for getting through spam filters) > 3. Manages dynamic contact lists from master contacts databases with ab= ility to apply results filters > 4. Tracks click-throughs from unique values inserted into urls > 5. Is part of a total-solution internal CMS > > > My problem: > > webDNA email chokes every 2-6 messages > > It seems like webDNA should be able to handle this and there is some so= lution... > > I really hope I haven't been wasting my time > > > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Olin Lagon wrote: > >> What about using VerticalResponse.com? I would recommend exporting you= r list and then importing into a system like Vertical Response. That way = you can maintain can spam compliance plus they have incredible metrics to= show open rates, click throughs etc. You can import dozens of custom fie= lds so you can easily customize each outgoing email. >> >> aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >>> Following up from the bulk email, solution=85.. i ran a loop to perfo= rm a sendmail for each email address on the list=85.. >>> >>> Now it seems that every few e-mails, the email stops working and the = only solution is to stop web cat, remove the "stuck" email in the emailFo= lder queue, and then start again. I tried setting the ticks to a slow sp= eed, but that didn't help. Its as if every few emails are corrupt. >>> >>> This is extremely frustrating. This has happened in the past even wh= en I wasn't sending mass e-mails. Every now and then, one would just get= "stuck". >>> >>> I'm running v6.2 on windows server 2003 iis6 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list. >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list. > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >
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