Re: [WebDNA] eCommerce in 7.0 but not in 7.1?
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texte = Here what i think: 10 years ago (or more, i don't remember), instead of = working on the engine, a developer thought about making WebDNA an = "eCommerce application". At this time, it was a pretty neat solution. To = ensure additional income, he made the solution tag-dependent (expensive = license). This is why WebCatalog became "an eCommerce application" which = is one of the reasons it lost the "server-side scripting language" = market to PHP. Furthermore, the application has never been evolutive and = shows its age. WebDNA is a programming language for the web, and a great one: as = Patrick McCormick said once, "WebDNA needs to be thought of as the final = hack on everything emitted from the server, and those hacks can be as = sophisticated or interative as any user could ever want or need". WebDNA = should not be restricted to keep this old Commerce solution alive, and = we will not support it, although i have no plans to kill it neither. - chris On Feb 10, 2012, at 20:31, Rob wrote: > "WebDNA deserves a much more modern commerce application" ... = Hmmmm.... what is a possible ETA on this one... I've just spent about 10 = hours partially re-inventing the wheel on existing stores because of no = commerce tags, and am getting a little frustrated with it... It would = probably be easier for me just to adapt a PHP solution, then screw with = this all weekend... :-( >=20 > Sorry.... just venting... long hours... but its kind of annoying = having a workable system that is no longer available, and having to find = workarounds for everything those tags did... sigh!... about 60% done... = then comes the job of transposing those changes into all the stores... I = guess once its done it will be a better solution... >=20 > The commerce tags don't work on the OS X version 7.0.623. >=20 > Rob >=20 >=20 > On Feb 10, 2012, at 4:04 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Sorry, can't document this! :-) >>=20 >> Seriously... i am not even sure the eCommerce tags work with 7.0 but = some of you told me it was working fine. Yes, it works with the version = we put online this evening (7.1 linux-64) but again, we do not support = these old tags. I think WebDNA deserves a much more modern commerce = application. >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 19:48, C. Frank Wolfe wrote: >>=20 >>> So which versions/platforms have the undocumented old ecommerence = tags? >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>>=20 >>> Frank >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:37 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>=20 >>>> ok, we built a new linux 64bits (7.1.696), available at = dev.webdna.us/products.html >>>> Old eCommerce tags are activated by default and we replaced = "unknown" by "WebDNA" (cosmetic issue) >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 18:33, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> The client said he gets the error when this is the only tag=20 >>>>> in the page: >>>>>=20 >>>>> [addlineitem=20 >>>>> cart=3D2&sku=3DGW9032&db=3Dcatalog.txt]quantity=3D1[/addlineitem] >>>>>=20 >>>>> The "Unknown" issue is cosmetic only, it appears in the=20 >>>>> WebDNA Admin pages in "
Unknown Preferences"=20 >>>>> and in the heading on the security page as "Unknown Security=20 >>>>> Administration" ... and possibly other places. It seems=20 >>>>> like there's a tag that's supposed to put a version name=20 >>>>> there but it defaults to "Unknown" when the tag cannot get=20 >>>>> the proper value from the software or the prefs. >>>>>=20 >>>>> My main concern is the eCommerce issue: If v6.x sites will=20 >>>>> not run on v7.1 then I should have installed version 7.0 for=20 >>>>> the client instead of 7.1 ... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> 7.1 includes the last versions of xalan and xerces, >>>>>> removes the need for java and libmysql, and we built it >>>>>> without special care for the eCommerce tags, though we >>>>>> did not change anything about them neither. Could you >>>>>> isolate the tag that produces this error? also, could >>>>>> you explain "I see this problem in the 7.1 admin >>>>>> interface too"? the more details we have, the better. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sincerely, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> - chris >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 17:04, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>> I'm not sure about the most recent build of version 7.0 >>>>>>> but at least one or more of the previous versions of >>>>>>> 7.0 ran one of my client's 6.x eCommerce site just >>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> However, I installed 7.1 for a new client the other >>>>>>> day, and he says he cannot get his eCommerce site to >>>>>>> run on it. Instead he get this error: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> " Unknown does not support eCommerce capabilities. " >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> So here's the question: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Given that version 7.1 does not include MySQL stuff, >>>>>>> and may have had other changes made between it and >>>>>>> version 7.0 that we were not told about, does this >>>>>>> mean that version 7.1 will absolutely not process >>>>>>> eCommerce tags -- and instead it will generate this >>>>>>> error when it sees an eCommerce tag? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> BTW, something else is wrong here too, because the >>>>>>> error message should not say "Unknown". I think it >>>>>>> should instead post the version name there. I see >>>>>>> this problem in the 7.1 admin interface too. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> -- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list
. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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Here what i think: 10 years ago (or more, i don't remember), instead of = working on the engine, a developer thought about making WebDNA an = "eCommerce application". At this time, it was a pretty neat solution. To = ensure additional income, he made the solution tag-dependent (expensive = license). This is why WebCatalog became "an eCommerce application" which = is one of the reasons it lost the "server-side scripting language" = market to PHP. Furthermore, the application has never been evolutive and = shows its age. WebDNA is a programming language for the web, and a great one: as = Patrick McCormick said once, "WebDNA needs to be thought of as the final = hack on everything emitted from the server, and those hacks can be as = sophisticated or interative as any user could ever want or need". WebDNA = should not be restricted to keep this old Commerce solution alive, and = we will not support it, although i have no plans to kill it neither. - chris On Feb 10, 2012, at 20:31, Rob wrote: > "WebDNA deserves a much more modern commerce application" ... = Hmmmm.... what is a possible ETA on this one... I've just spent about 10 = hours partially re-inventing the wheel on existing stores because of no = commerce tags, and am getting a little frustrated with it... It would = probably be easier for me just to adapt a PHP solution, then screw with = this all weekend... :-( >=20 > Sorry.... just venting... long hours... but its kind of annoying = having a workable system that is no longer available, and having to find = workarounds for everything those tags did... sigh!... about 60% done... = then comes the job of transposing those changes into all the stores... I = guess once its done it will be a better solution... >=20 > The commerce tags don't work on the OS X version 7.0.623. >=20 > Rob >=20 >=20 > On Feb 10, 2012, at 4:04 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Sorry, can't document this! :-) >>=20 >> Seriously... i am not even sure the eCommerce tags work with 7.0 but = some of you told me it was working fine. Yes, it works with the version = we put online this evening (7.1 linux-64) but again, we do not support = these old tags. I think WebDNA deserves a much more modern commerce = application. >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Feb 10, 2012, at 19:48, C. Frank Wolfe wrote: >>=20 >>> So which versions/platforms have the undocumented old ecommerence = tags? >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>>=20 >>> Frank >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 11:37 AM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >>>=20 >>>> ok, we built a new linux 64bits (7.1.696), available at = dev.webdna.us/products.html >>>> Old eCommerce tags are activated by default and we replaced = "unknown" by "WebDNA" (cosmetic issue) >>>>=20 >>>> - chris >>>>=20 >>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 18:33, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> The client said he gets the error when this is the only tag=20 >>>>> in the page: >>>>>=20 >>>>> [addlineitem=20 >>>>> cart=3D2&sku=3DGW9032&db=3Dcatalog.txt]quantity=3D1[/addlineitem] >>>>>=20 >>>>> The "Unknown" issue is cosmetic only, it appears in the=20 >>>>> WebDNA Admin pages in "Unknown Preferences"=20 >>>>> and in the heading on the security page as "Unknown Security=20 >>>>> Administration" ... and possibly other places. It seems=20 >>>>> like there's a tag that's supposed to put a version name=20 >>>>> there but it defaults to "Unknown" when the tag cannot get=20 >>>>> the proper value from the software or the prefs. >>>>>=20 >>>>> My main concern is the eCommerce issue: If v6.x sites will=20 >>>>> not run on v7.1 then I should have installed version 7.0 for=20 >>>>> the client instead of 7.1 ... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> 7.1 includes the last versions of xalan and xerces, >>>>>> removes the need for java and libmysql, and we built it >>>>>> without special care for the eCommerce tags, though we >>>>>> did not change anything about them neither. Could you >>>>>> isolate the tag that produces this error? also, could >>>>>> you explain "I see this problem in the 7.1 admin >>>>>> interface too"? the more details we have, the better. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> sincerely, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> - chris >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Feb 10, 2012, at 17:04, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>>>>> I'm not sure about the most recent build of version 7.0 >>>>>>> but at least one or more of the previous versions of >>>>>>> 7.0 ran one of my client's 6.x eCommerce site just >>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> However, I installed 7.1 for a new client the other >>>>>>> day, and he says he cannot get his eCommerce site to >>>>>>> run on it. Instead he get this error: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> " Unknown does not support eCommerce capabilities. " >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> So here's the question: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Given that version 7.1 does not include MySQL stuff, >>>>>>> and may have had other changes made between it and >>>>>>> version 7.0 that we were not told about, does this >>>>>>> mean that version 7.1 will absolutely not process >>>>>>> eCommerce tags -- and instead it will generate this >>>>>>> error when it sees an eCommerce tag? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> BTW, something else is wrong here too, because the >>>>>>> error message should not say "Unknown". I think it >>>>>>> should instead post the version name there. I see >>>>>>> this problem in the 7.1 admin interface too. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> -- This message is sent to you because you are >>>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>> the mailing list . >>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list . >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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