Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website

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texte = --Apple-Mail=_C832C0CB-AB15-4954-88F9-EFF8B9ED8F4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Will As the discussion opens my awareness widens. Basically I only have one public IP and that is my dilemma. NAT is turned on on my router/firewall and I am able to make a Port = Forward rule. So maybe mu challenge is the ONE PUBLIC IP. And IF it is; is it hen at = all possible to have the one server on a public IP hosting http and = another on the local network hosting http as well and both being = accessed from the outside. PS. Sagemcom /Palle > On 12/12/2014, at 23.06, WJ Starck, DDS wrote: >=20 > Right >=20 > So you should be able to set up your firewall so that http (port 80) = requests are handled like this >=20 > Requests to www.mypublicserver.com = (let's say its public IP is 63.x.x.74) get pointed to your public server=20= >=20 > Then you'll need a second public IP, say 63.x.x.75, that gets pointed = (port forwarded) to your internal server, say 192.168.1.75. You'll need = NAT turned on in your firewall. You probably don't want DNS setup for = the private host (I'm guessing) so you'd just access it with = http://63.x.x.75 >=20 > What firewall are you running (feel free to email me off list at = wjs@webdna.us if you don't want to say publicly)? >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Will >=20 >=20 > --- > William J. Starck, DDS > Big Idea Software, LLC > 15305 Dallas Parkway Suite 300 > Addison, TX 75001 > 817-800-9634 > http://www.bigideasoft.com >=20 > On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >=20 >> Yes, but I need to server HTTP request from both the public server = (63.x.x.x) and the private server (192.168.x.x) >>=20 >> PS. I use FastCGI on both >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 12/12/2014, at 22.19, WJ Starck, DDS > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle- >>>=20 >>> You don't have to do that. >>>=20 >>> Like Dan said, just assign a public IP to your private server, then = setup your firewall to port forward requests for port 80 from that = public IP to the private IP of the internal server. Are you using WebDNA = server of FastCGI? You might consider using FastCGI for the internal = server as the setup will be easier. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>>=20 >>> Will >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --- >>> William J. Starck, DDS >>> Big Idea Software, LLC >>> 15305 Dallas Parkway Suite 300 >>> Addison, TX 75001 >>> 817-800-9634 >>> http://www.bigideasoft.com >>>=20 >>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>=20 >>>> a) The :8000 (port)option, wouldn=E2=80=99t that require that all = links on the privat ip also has :8000 (the port attached) ? The port = routing would be easy. >>>>=20 >>>> b) How would I do this? I am a bit blank here. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/12/2014, at 19.45, Dan Strong > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Maybe set up port forwarding on your router for an arbitrary port, = say, 8000, and access from the outside like this http://:8000 = and all traffic to this port gets forwarded to 192.168.1.135 or = whatever... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Or you could set up some sort of dyndns on the privare computer = and acess it that way. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Obviously I don't know your specifics, but this might be a general = path to explore. Hope it helps. >>>>>=20 >>>>> -Dan Strong >>>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> HI >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have a network with a public fixed IP on which a webdna website = i running fine. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On the local network NAT=E2=80=99ed behind the public fixed IP I = have another physical server with webdna with a privat fixed IP, which = is not accessible from the outside. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there any WebDNA way I can access the server on the private = network from the outside, possible using the Publicly available WebDNA = server? >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list >. >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us = ------------------------------------------------= --------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the = mailing list . 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Hi Will

As the discussion opens my awareness = widens.

Basically I only have one public IP and = that is my dilemma.

NAT is turned on on my router/firewall and I am able to make a Port Forward rule.

So maybe mu challenge is = the ONE PUBLIC IP. And IF it is; is it hen at all possible to have the = one server on a public IP hosting http and another on the local network = hosting http as well and both being accessed from the outside.

PS. Sagemcom

/Palle


On 12/12/2014, at 23.06, WJ = Starck, DDS <wjs@bigideasoft.com> wrote:

Right

So you should be able to = set up your firewall so that http (port 80) requests are handled like = this

Requests = to www.mypublicserver.com (let's say its public IP is = 63.x.x.74) get pointed to your public server 

Then you'll need a = second public IP, say 63.x.x.75, that gets pointed (port forwarded) to = your internal server, say 192.168.1.75. You'll need NAT turned on in = your firewall. You probably don't want DNS setup for the private host = (I'm guessing) so you'd just access it with http://63.x.x.75

What firewall are you running (feel = free to email me off list at wjs@webdna.us if you don't want to say = publicly)?

Cheers,

Will


---
William J. Starck, = DDS
Big Idea Software, = LLC
15305 Dallas Parkway Suite = 300
Addison, TX 75001
817-800-9634
http://www.bigideasoft.com

On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Yes, but I = need to server HTTP request from both the public server (63.x.x.x) and = the private server (192.168.x.x)

PS. I use FastCGI on both

/Palle


On 12/12/2014, at 22.19, WJ = Starck, DDS <wjs@bigideasoft.com> wrote:

Palle-

You don't have to do = that.

Like Dan = said, just assign a public IP to your private server, then setup your = firewall to port forward requests for port 80 from that public IP to the = private IP of the internal server. Are you using WebDNA server of = FastCGI? You might consider using FastCGI for the internal server as the = setup will be easier.

Cheers,

Will


---
William J. Starck, = DDS
Big Idea Software, = LLC
15305 Dallas Parkway Suite = 300
Addison, TX 75001
817-800-9634
http://www.bigideasoft.com

On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

a) The :8000 (port)option, = wouldn=E2=80=99t that require that all links on the privat ip also has = :8000 (the port attached) ? The port routing would be easy.

b) How would I do this? = I am a bit blank here.

/Palle



On = 12/12/2014, at 19.45, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:

Maybe set up port forwarding on your router for an arbitrary = port, say, 8000, and access from the outside like this = http://<your-ip>:8000 and all traffic to this port gets forwarded = to 192.168.1.135 or whatever...

Or you could set up some sort of dyndns on the privare = computer and acess it that way.

Obviously I don't know your specifics, = but this might be a general path to explore. Hope it = helps.

-Dan Strong
http://DanStrong.com

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:08 = AM, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
HI

I have a network with a public fixed IP on which a webdna website i = running fine.

On the local network NAT=E2=80=99ed behind the public fixed IP I have = another physical server with webdna with a privat fixed IP, which is not = accessible from the outside.

Is there any WebDNA way I can access the server on the private network = from the outside, possible using the Publicly available WebDNA = server?

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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2014)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website (Palle Bo Nielsen 2014)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2014)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website (Palle Bo Nielsen 2014)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2014)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website (Palle Bo Nielsen 2014)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website (Dan Strong 2014)
  8. [WebDNA] Privat IP website behind a public IP website (Palle Bo Nielsen 2014)
--Apple-Mail=_C832C0CB-AB15-4954-88F9-EFF8B9ED8F4F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Will As the discussion opens my awareness widens. Basically I only have one public IP and that is my dilemma. NAT is turned on on my router/firewall and I am able to make a Port = Forward rule. So maybe mu challenge is the ONE PUBLIC IP. And IF it is; is it hen at = all possible to have the one server on a public IP hosting http and = another on the local network hosting http as well and both being = accessed from the outside. PS. Sagemcom /Palle > On 12/12/2014, at 23.06, WJ Starck, DDS wrote: >=20 > Right >=20 > So you should be able to set up your firewall so that http (port 80) = requests are handled like this >=20 > Requests to www.mypublicserver.com = (let's say its public IP is 63.x.x.74) get pointed to your public server=20= >=20 > Then you'll need a second public IP, say 63.x.x.75, that gets pointed = (port forwarded) to your internal server, say 192.168.1.75. You'll need = NAT turned on in your firewall. You probably don't want DNS setup for = the private host (I'm guessing) so you'd just access it with = http://63.x.x.75 >=20 > What firewall are you running (feel free to email me off list at = wjs@webdna.us if you don't want to say publicly)? >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Will >=20 >=20 > --- > William J. Starck, DDS > Big Idea Software, LLC > 15305 Dallas Parkway Suite 300 > Addison, TX 75001 > 817-800-9634 > http://www.bigideasoft.com >=20 > On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >=20 >> Yes, but I need to server HTTP request from both the public server = (63.x.x.x) and the private server (192.168.x.x) >>=20 >> PS. I use FastCGI on both >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 12/12/2014, at 22.19, WJ Starck, DDS > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle- >>>=20 >>> You don't have to do that. >>>=20 >>> Like Dan said, just assign a public IP to your private server, then = setup your firewall to port forward requests for port 80 from that = public IP to the private IP of the internal server. Are you using WebDNA = server of FastCGI? You might consider using FastCGI for the internal = server as the setup will be easier. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>>=20 >>> Will >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --- >>> William J. Starck, DDS >>> Big Idea Software, LLC >>> 15305 Dallas Parkway Suite 300 >>> Addison, TX 75001 >>> 817-800-9634 >>> http://www.bigideasoft.com >>>=20 >>> On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>=20 >>>> a) The :8000 (port)option, wouldn=E2=80=99t that require that all = links on the privat ip also has :8000 (the port attached) ? The port = routing would be easy. >>>>=20 >>>> b) How would I do this? I am a bit blank here. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 12/12/2014, at 19.45, Dan Strong > wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Maybe set up port forwarding on your router for an arbitrary port, = say, 8000, and access from the outside like this http://:8000 = and all traffic to this port gets forwarded to 192.168.1.135 or = whatever... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Or you could set up some sort of dyndns on the privare computer = and acess it that way. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Obviously I don't know your specifics, but this might be a general = path to explore. Hope it helps. >>>>>=20 >>>>> -Dan Strong >>>>> http://DanStrong.com >>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen = > wrote: >>>>> HI >>>>>=20 >>>>> I have a network with a public fixed IP on which a webdna website = i running fine. >>>>>=20 >>>>> On the local network NAT=E2=80=99ed behind the public fixed IP I = have another physical server with webdna with a privat fixed IP, which = is not accessible from the outside. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there any WebDNA way I can access the server on the private = network from the outside, possible using the Publicly available WebDNA = server? >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle--------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>> the mailing list >. >>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = >>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This = message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . = To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us = Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us = ------------------------------------------------= --------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the = mailing list . 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Hi Will

As the discussion opens my awareness = widens.

Basically I only have one public IP and = that is my dilemma.

NAT is turned on on my router/firewall and I am able to make a Port Forward rule.

So maybe mu challenge is = the ONE PUBLIC IP. And IF it is; is it hen at all possible to have the = one server on a public IP hosting http and another on the local network = hosting http as well and both being accessed from the outside.

PS. Sagemcom

/Palle


On 12/12/2014, at 23.06, WJ = Starck, DDS <wjs@bigideasoft.com> wrote:

Right

So you should be able to = set up your firewall so that http (port 80) requests are handled like = this

Requests = to www.mypublicserver.com (let's say its public IP is = 63.x.x.74) get pointed to your public server 

Then you'll need a = second public IP, say 63.x.x.75, that gets pointed (port forwarded) to = your internal server, say 192.168.1.75. You'll need NAT turned on in = your firewall. You probably don't want DNS setup for the private host = (I'm guessing) so you'd just access it with http://63.x.x.75

What firewall are you running (feel = free to email me off list at wjs@webdna.us if you don't want to say = publicly)?

Cheers,

Will


---
William J. Starck, = DDS
Big Idea Software, = LLC
15305 Dallas Parkway Suite = 300
Addison, TX 75001
817-800-9634
http://www.bigideasoft.com

On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

Yes, but I = need to server HTTP request from both the public server (63.x.x.x) and = the private server (192.168.x.x)

PS. I use FastCGI on both

/Palle


On 12/12/2014, at 22.19, WJ = Starck, DDS <wjs@bigideasoft.com> wrote:

Palle-

You don't have to do = that.

Like Dan = said, just assign a public IP to your private server, then setup your = firewall to port forward requests for port 80 from that public IP to the = private IP of the internal server. Are you using WebDNA server of = FastCGI? You might consider using FastCGI for the internal server as the = setup will be easier.

Cheers,

Will


---
William J. Starck, = DDS
Big Idea Software, = LLC
15305 Dallas Parkway Suite = 300
Addison, TX 75001
817-800-9634
http://www.bigideasoft.com

On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:

a) The :8000 (port)option, = wouldn=E2=80=99t that require that all links on the privat ip also has = :8000 (the port attached) ? The port routing would be easy.

b) How would I do this? = I am a bit blank here.

/Palle



On = 12/12/2014, at 19.45, Dan Strong <dan@danstrong.com> wrote:

Maybe set up port forwarding on your router for an arbitrary = port, say, 8000, and access from the outside like this = http://<your-ip>:8000 and all traffic to this port gets forwarded = to 192.168.1.135 or whatever...

Or you could set up some sort of dyndns on the privare = computer and acess it that way.

Obviously I don't know your specifics, = but this might be a general path to explore. Hope it = helps.

-Dan Strong
http://DanStrong.com

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:08 = AM, Palle Bo Nielsen <powerpalle@powerpalle.dk> wrote:
HI

I have a network with a public fixed IP on which a webdna website i = running fine.

On the local network NAT=E2=80=99ed behind the public fixed IP I have = another physical server with webdna with a privat fixed IP, which is not = accessible from the outside.

Is there any WebDNA way I can access the server on the private network = from the outside, possible using the Publicly available WebDNA = server?

/Palle---------------------------------------------------------
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