Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx

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2016


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texte = 588 I personally don=92t see ANY reason why WebDNA FastCGI can=92t be = installed on a CPANEL Account.. one of these days I=92ll get around to = trying it out. Agree 100% about integrating into these types of environments. Donovan On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Patrick McCormick = wrote: > Did the same thing, Ken & I=92m using Webmin. >=20 > My main server does a ton of WordPress sites & that one uses = WHM/cPanel. I=92ve also installed WHMCS, which automates billing. = Clients pay with a credit card and future monthly payments are drawn = automatically and it even auto-kills sites if the payment isn=92t = received by a deadline. >=20 > I wish that WebDNA was installable through this system. It has a = package called Softaculous that contains installers for almost every = common software package used online. WebDNA should really be just = another package in that ecosystem. >=20 > That would allow programmers like us to do WebDNA solutions which = could be sold commercially as plugins for other CMS=92s including = WordPress. >=20 > Although I originally used Webmin & have always found it to be = extremely complete & functional, WHM/cPanel is extremely fast and does a = much better job of managing all the domains on a server and all of the = various packages for each domain. >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 22, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>=20 >> I don't know what Chris meant by Debian giving "deeper control" >> than Ubuntu. There is nothing I have ever needed to do on a >> server that cannot be done in Ubuntu. I tried Debian once but it >> was more difficult to configure and manage than Ubuntu. >>=20 >> In my opinion Ubuntu/Apache is the best solution, especially when >> installing Webmin for server management, which I do on all my >> servers. The command line still rules for certain tasks, but for >> everything else Webmin makes life much easier, especially when >> you're not employed full-time as a server admin. >>=20 >> You ordered a huge amount of resources for something you described >> as needing 1/10th of that amount in your first post. It looks >> like you're into some serious overkill. I hope the network you're >> on is half as good as the server you ordered ... :) >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 09/22/2016 02:25 AM, dale wrote: >>> Thanks Chris, >>>=20 >>> The VPS I ordered has 6GB ram with 6 cores. My previous servers >>> were CentOS and a Fedora box. =46rom what I read, it appeared that >>> Ubuntu was more server focused. >>>=20 >>> I'll defer to you guys as to which is better. If Debian/Apache is >>> considered the better combination I'm fine with that. Especially >>> since I always used Apache once I moved from WebStar :) >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>> Dale.=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:20 AM, >> > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Dale! >>>=20 >>> it depends a little bit of your linux skills: >>>=20 >>> Debian is more technical than Ubuntu (which is a Debian >>> dressed up) but it also uses less resources and gives a deeper >>> control. >>> Ubuntu is easier to manage >>> CentOS is also easy to manage >>> nginx will use less resources than apache and might be a >>> little faster >>> apache is much better documented than nginx >>>=20 >>> I suppose a Debian + nginx can run on a small VPS with as >>> little as 128MB RAM >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:14, dale >> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I have always used Apache, with this new project I'm >>> wondering which you folks recommend? >>>>=20 >>>> =46rom my reading, I think I'm going to go with Ubuntu as it >>> seems be the better server option vs Debian. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! >>>>=20 >>>> Dale >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list >. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>> list . 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  1. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Patrick McCormick 2016)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Donovan Brooke 2016)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Patrick McCormick 2016)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (Kenneth Grome 2016)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (dale 2016)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2016)
  7. [WebDNA] Apache or Nginx (dale 2016)
588 I personally don=92t see ANY reason why WebDNA FastCGI can=92t be = installed on a CPANEL Account.. one of these days I=92ll get around to = trying it out. Agree 100% about integrating into these types of environments. Donovan On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Patrick McCormick = wrote: > Did the same thing, Ken & I=92m using Webmin. >=20 > My main server does a ton of WordPress sites & that one uses = WHM/cPanel. I=92ve also installed WHMCS, which automates billing. = Clients pay with a credit card and future monthly payments are drawn = automatically and it even auto-kills sites if the payment isn=92t = received by a deadline. >=20 > I wish that WebDNA was installable through this system. It has a = package called Softaculous that contains installers for almost every = common software package used online. WebDNA should really be just = another package in that ecosystem. >=20 > That would allow programmers like us to do WebDNA solutions which = could be sold commercially as plugins for other CMS=92s including = WordPress. >=20 > Although I originally used Webmin & have always found it to be = extremely complete & functional, WHM/cPanel is extremely fast and does a = much better job of managing all the domains on a server and all of the = various packages for each domain. >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 22, 2016, at 8:52 AM, Kenneth Grome = wrote: >>=20 >> I don't know what Chris meant by Debian giving "deeper control" >> than Ubuntu. There is nothing I have ever needed to do on a >> server that cannot be done in Ubuntu. I tried Debian once but it >> was more difficult to configure and manage than Ubuntu. >>=20 >> In my opinion Ubuntu/Apache is the best solution, especially when >> installing Webmin for server management, which I do on all my >> servers. The command line still rules for certain tasks, but for >> everything else Webmin makes life much easier, especially when >> you're not employed full-time as a server admin. >>=20 >> You ordered a huge amount of resources for something you described >> as needing 1/10th of that amount in your first post. It looks >> like you're into some serious overkill. I hope the network you're >> on is half as good as the server you ordered ... :) >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kenneth Grome >> WebDNA Solutions >> http://www.webdnasolutions.com >> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 09/22/2016 02:25 AM, dale wrote: >>> Thanks Chris, >>>=20 >>> The VPS I ordered has 6GB ram with 6 cores. My previous servers >>> were CentOS and a Fedora box. =46rom what I read, it appeared that >>> Ubuntu was more server focused. >>>=20 >>> I'll defer to you guys as to which is better. If Debian/Apache is >>> considered the better combination I'm fine with that. Especially >>> since I always used Apache once I moved from WebStar :) >>>=20 >>> Thanks! >>>=20 >>> Dale.=20 >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:20 AM, >> > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hi Dale! >>>=20 >>> it depends a little bit of your linux skills: >>>=20 >>> Debian is more technical than Ubuntu (which is a Debian >>> dressed up) but it also uses less resources and gives a deeper >>> control. >>> Ubuntu is easier to manage >>> CentOS is also easy to manage >>> nginx will use less resources than apache and might be a >>> little faster >>> apache is much better documented than nginx >>>=20 >>> I suppose a Debian + nginx can run on a small VPS with as >>> little as 128MB RAM >>>=20 >>> - chris >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:14, dale >> > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I have always used Apache, with this new project I'm >>> wondering which you folks recommend? >>>>=20 >>>> =46rom my reading, I think I'm going to go with Ubuntu as it >>> seems be the better server option vs Debian. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks! >>>>=20 >>>> Dale >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>> mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list >. >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>> list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: >>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- This message = is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To = unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: = http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: = support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us . Donovan Brooke

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