Re: [WebDNA] User sessions - cookies only or cookies and a
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It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 113102
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texte = 690> On another side, I am baffled to see how some users jumped into> this opportunity to claim [session] is "unreliable"I never said [session] is unreliable.But within the context of use as a unique way to identify abrowser, I absolutely said that [BrowserID] is unreliable -- and Isaid it not only based on Tom's failed test results, but also onthe clear warning posted in the WSC online docs:> A word or warning: In certain rare cases, it is possible to> find two identicals browser "fingerprint" or BrowserID. It is> not advised to do visitor recognition based only on Browser IDPersonally I believe we are smart enough to make our own decisionsabout the viability of [BrowserID] for a particular use -- if youwill just explain how it works and what data bits are used togenerate it. But the only attempted explanation I've ever seen isa vague reference to a browser "fingerprint" or "footprint" --which means nothing to me.I already know how to uniquely identify browsers using cookies,and I've been doing it successfully for years now. This is onereason why I'll stick with something I know and understand UNTILsomething that's truly better comes along. Sure, I would love tofind an easier way, but if a supposedly better solution exists Icannot in good conscience adopt it until I understand exactly howit works, and why it might NOT work in certain situations.Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionshttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server Administration---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list
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690> On another side, I am baffled to see how some users jumped into> this opportunity to claim [session] is "unreliable"I never said [session] is unreliable.But within the context of use as a unique way to identify abrowser, I absolutely said that [BrowserID] is unreliable -- and Isaid it not only based on Tom's failed test results, but also onthe clear warning posted in the WSC online docs:> A word or warning: In certain rare cases, it is possible to> find two identicals browser "fingerprint" or BrowserID. It is> not advised to do visitor recognition based only on Browser IDPersonally I believe we are smart enough to make our own decisionsabout the viability of [BrowserID] for a particular use -- if youwill just explain how it works and what data bits are used togenerate it. But the only attempted explanation I've ever seen isa vague reference to a browser "fingerprint" or "footprint" --which means nothing to me.I already know how to uniquely identify browsers using cookies,and I've been doing it successfully for years now. This is onereason why I'll stick with something I know and understand UNTILsomething that's truly better comes along. Sure, I would love tofind an easier way, but if a supposedly better solution exists Icannot in good conscience adopt it until I understand exactly howit works, and why it might NOT work in certain situations.Regards,Kenneth GromeWebDNA Solutionshttp://www.webdnasolutions.comWeb Database Systems and Linux Server Administration---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: support@webdna.us.
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