Re: [WebDNA] Help with STMP Setup using Authentication with Google Apps in WebDNA

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texte = 851 Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what OS = and version? Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? Donovan On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: > Hi Donovan. >=20 > Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case (because = this is not a shared server situation). We are using a dedicated = physical server for this. >=20 > We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with the = exception of what I=92m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=92d prefer not configure / troubleshoot / = secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real pain) if = possible. But, that being said, I=92ll do what I have to do. ;-) >=20 > Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=92ll go ahead and report that. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 >=20 > Andrew Burger >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>=20 >> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=85=20 >> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>=20 >> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this email. >>=20 >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello Everyone, >>>=20 >>> Objective: >>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA 6 = server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>=20 >>> Current Setup: >>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost (although = exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me since we = haven=92t done any additional mail services setup on that server but = anyway=85). More to the point, I=92ve been able to get the current = production WebDNA server to work, as long as the proper SPF record was = in place. So we have a working routine in production now. >>>=20 >>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=92ve been unable to get the sendmail = command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications through = WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the message = and confirmed that it =93sent=94 in the Email log file. However, no = message appears to go through to the recipients. I=92ve even gone = through an additional setup of setting up the G Suite SMTP relay server = and whitelisted the originating IP address of the new WebDNA server = inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP for emails in Google = Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper SPF record like I did = for the currently working server). I haven=92t gotten any SPF passes or = rejections though, so I=92m not even entirely confident that it=92s even = getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>=20 >>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=92s got this to work or whether we can confirm = if something has changed with the mechanism used for the sendmail = command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>=20 >>> Sorry if that=92s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=92m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far to = generate some useful feedback. >>>=20 >>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Andrew Burger >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>=20 >>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=92t appear to be possible to = uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface once you = enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 through a = WebDNA call to switch back and test =91localhost' settings. Is there a = proper way to report bugs like this or is already a known = issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  6. [WebDNA] Help with STMP Setup using Authentication with Google Apps in WebDNA (Andrew Burger 2016)
851 Is this a different operating system than the 6 server? If so, what OS = and version? Is this the latest WebDNA Server 8 version? Donovan On Dec 21, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: > Hi Donovan. >=20 > Excellent question. Not using server sandboxes in this case (because = this is not a shared server situation). We are using a dedicated = physical server for this. >=20 > We can do whatever is needed on the server in every respect, with the = exception of what I=92m trying to pass through Google Apps with = Auth/SMTP, etc. Ideally, I=92d prefer not configure / troubleshoot / = secure-harden mail services there (since that is a real pain) if = possible. But, that being said, I=92ll do what I have to do. ;-) >=20 > Also, thanks for the note regarding bug reporting. Now that I have = the info from email notices, I=92ll go ahead and report that. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 >=20 > Andrew Burger >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Donovan Brooke wrote: >>=20 >> One common mistake (I still make this mistake sometimes)=85=20 >> Are you using WebDNA Server SandBoxes by chance? >>=20 >> Regarding bug reporting, there is a link at the bottom of this email. >>=20 >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Andrew Burger = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello Everyone, >>>=20 >>> Objective: >>> We are currently in the middle of migrating our production WebDNA 6 = server to a new one with WebDNA 8. The remaining piece left to get = working is having WebDNA send out email message via the sendmail = command. >>>=20 >>> Current Setup: >>> The current production WebDNA 6 server works via localhost (although = exactly how that works is a little bit of a mystery to me since we = haven=92t done any additional mail services setup on that server but = anyway=85). More to the point, I=92ve been able to get the current = production WebDNA server to work, as long as the proper SPF record was = in place. So we have a working routine in production now. >>>=20 >>> Steps Taken to Troubleshoot: >>> With the new WebDNA 8 server, I=92ve been unable to get the sendmail = command to send out a valid message. I have done verifications through = WebDNA Email Folders. EmailCompleted have properly processed the message = and confirmed that it =93sent=94 in the Email log file. However, no = message appears to go through to the recipients. I=92ve even gone = through an additional setup of setting up the G Suite SMTP relay server = and whitelisted the originating IP address of the new WebDNA server = inside the Relay settings and whitelisting the IP for emails in Google = Admin for regular SMTP (in addition to the proper SPF record like I did = for the currently working server). I haven=92t gotten any SPF passes or = rejections though, so I=92m not even entirely confident that it=92s even = getting to Google servers yet for processing. >>>=20 >>> Has anyone else had any luck getting email authentication working = with Google Apps email? I would truly appreciate anyone that has some = insight from anyone that=92s got this to work or whether we can confirm = if something has changed with the mechanism used for the sendmail = command between WebDNA 6 or 8... >>>=20 >>> Sorry if that=92s a lot of information up front but wanted to = explain what I=92m trying to accomplish and the steps taken so far to = generate some useful feedback. >>>=20 >>> Thanks so much and happy holidays! >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Andrew Burger >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> PS - Pleased to meet all of you. Just subscribed to the list and = looking forward to getting to learn from the rest of you. >>>=20 >>> PPS - Also uncovered an issue in the WebCatalog Email Setup = preferences in WebDNA Server 8. It doesn=92t appear to be possible to = uncheck STMP Auth and Require TLS through the web interface once you = enable it. Had to manually force the param value back to 0 through a = WebDNA call to switch back and test =91localhost' settings. Is there a = proper way to report bugs like this or is already a known = issue?--------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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