Re: [WebDNA] Webserver does not respond occasionally
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texte = 1802 Well, no large files or leads to anything unhealthy. A reinstall on top of the existing somehow made the difference. For now = (16 hours) everything is running smoothly. What went wrong? I have no clue. /Palle > On 21 Apr 2018, at 16.01, Donovan Brooke
wrote: >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean. >=20 > Did you find large files? >=20 > Are you you now seeing Error Log.txt files? >=20 > Did you find the Apache logs? >=20 > Donovan=20 >=20 > D. Brooke Mobile >=20 >> On Apr 20, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >>=20 >> Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. >>=20 >> It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. >>=20 >> Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage >>=20 >> a) it works >> b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB = not found or opened=20 >> c) WebDna not running - empty page >>=20 >> Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >>>=20 >>> First turn on error logging (in the admin) >>> Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): >>> find . -type f -size +75M -print >>>=20 >>> (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >>>=20 >>> look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >>>=20 >>> Check Apache logs. >>> Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >>>=20 >>> 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are = coding issues. >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>> Other useful commands: >>> find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >>>=20 >>> Hope that helps. >>>=20 >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>>>=20 >>>> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry = WebDNA >>>> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >>>> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before = on >>>> this server. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>> =E2=80=98 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson >>>> [27]> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Palle, >>>>>=20 >>>>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Best, >>>>> Christer >>>>>=20 >>>>> ************************************************************* >>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>>>=20 >>>>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>> : >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow= >>>>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>>>> overloaded. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> - chris >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t = find >>>>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>> message is sent to you because you 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mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >>>> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >>>> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>>> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>>> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>>> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >>>> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >>>> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: 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1802 Well, no large files or leads to anything unhealthy. A reinstall on top of the existing somehow made the difference. For now = (16 hours) everything is running smoothly. What went wrong? I have no clue. /Palle > On 21 Apr 2018, at 16.01, Donovan Brooke wrote: >=20 > I=E2=80=99m not sure what you mean. >=20 > Did you find large files? >=20 > Are you you now seeing Error Log.txt files? >=20 > Did you find the Apache logs? >=20 > Donovan=20 >=20 > D. Brooke Mobile >=20 >> On Apr 20, 2018, at 12:14 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >>=20 >> Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. >>=20 >> It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. >>=20 >> Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage >>=20 >> a) it works >> b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB = not found or opened=20 >> c) WebDna not running - empty page >>=20 >> Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he >>=20 >> /Palle >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >>>=20 >>> First turn on error logging (in the admin) >>> Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): >>> find . -type f -size +75M -print >>>=20 >>> (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >>>=20 >>> look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >>>=20 >>> Check Apache logs. >>> Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >>>=20 >>> 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are = coding issues. >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>> Other useful commands: >>> find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >>>=20 >>> Hope that helps. >>>=20 >>> Donovan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>>>=20 >>>> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry = WebDNA >>>> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >>>> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before = on >>>> this server. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>> =E2=80=98 >>>>=20 >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson >>>> [27]> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Palle, >>>>>=20 >>>>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Best, >>>>> Christer >>>>>=20 >>>>> ************************************************************* >>>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>>>=20 >>>>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>> : >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow= >>>>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>>>> overloaded. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> - chris >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t = find >>>>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: >>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [25] Bug Reporting: >>>>>> support@webdna.us [26] >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>> list talk@webdna.us [29] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [30] archives: >>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [31] Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us [32] >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing = list >>>> talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us >>>>=20 >>>> Links: >>>> ------ >>>> [1] https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB >>>> [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >>>> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >>>> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>>> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>>> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>>> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >>>> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >>>> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>>> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>>> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>>> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: 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