Re: OPEN MARKET PATENTS SOUND ECOMMERCE ALARM
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texte = I haven't looked at the actual text of the patents or explored this, but on the surface I don't think there is anything worry about. Session tracking and online shopping carts are, without exploring their explanations a bit more, the same concept. In fact, it is a concept that has nothing to do with shopping carts or commerce. Considering every major site on the Web offers tracking of some sort (via cookies, ip address, username, unique ID, etc.), I can't imagine anyone being allowed to claim this as intellectual property. I'm sure arguments can be made that this sort of tracking occured in other ways before the Web. The same is true for real time credit card processing. Your card swipe machine provides real time credit card processing.What could also kill this, would be prior implementation of these features. I'd probably bet money that all these features were used before Open Market existed. Anyway, sorry to ramble, maybe I'm wrong...who knows.John. >Hi all, > >I found this INTERESTING tid-bit. Any idea how this will effect >Webcatalog???? > >cheers, > >Rick >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ > >OPEN MARKET PATENTS SOUND ECOMMERCE ALARM > The company announces it won patents on three widely >used > ecommerce technologies -- online shopping carts, >session tracking > and real-time credit card transactions. Depending on >how broadly > the patents are interpreted, it could mean the vast >majority of > ecommerce sites are currently using ecommerce apps that >are the > intellectual property of Open Market. And Open Market's >CEO > makes it clear the company will try to get violators to >buy its > software or sign licensing agreements. Our take: It's >unlikely courts > will interpret this so broadly, and with billions at >stake there's a good > chance someone will be willing to find out. > >http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_1833.html > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Key Options Pty. Ltd. >P.O. Box 1150 >Castle Hill, NSW, 2154 >Australia > >Tel:+61-2-9899-9564 >Fax:+61-2-9899-9318 >Mob: 0412-205-113 > >-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > >mQBPAzNMLcoAAAECAL5yuN2krMXeMwfcZPvWFJ0d6oMd++Pafsx0MkIGoTmHLz9i >LYHOiyZfeWNcLRd4c6xHlPN36lyPe9Uw9jwbaQEAEQEAAbQiUmljaGFyZCBXeWxp >ZSA8cmlja3dAbWFnbmEuY29tLmF1PokAVQMFEDNLoSp71TD2PBtpAQEB3kMCAKQ5 >zd+aPODE2zw2Rht1duf4kVV6yXdC+ZSGYT0uGmkidgHS/Jw+uJvzHnKvR2ziAFrV >pYMY6WMaf06yWFvekvc= >=prwK >-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- John A. Hill, V.P. Marketing Pacific Coast Software eCommerce / Web Developer Tools http://www.smithmicro.com
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I haven't looked at the actual text of the patents or explored this, but on the surface I don't think there is anything worry about. Session tracking and online shopping carts are, without exploring their explanations a bit more, the same concept. In fact, it is a concept that has nothing to do with shopping carts or commerce. Considering every major site on the Web offers tracking of some sort (via cookies, ip address, username, unique ID, etc.), I can't imagine anyone being allowed to claim this as intellectual property. I'm sure arguments can be made that this sort of tracking occured in other ways before the Web. The same is true for real time credit card processing. Your card swipe machine provides real time credit card processing.What could also kill this, would be prior implementation of these features. I'd probably bet money that all these features were used before Open Market existed. Anyway, sorry to ramble, maybe I'm wrong...who knows.John. >Hi all, > >I found this INTERESTING tid-bit. Any idea how this will effect >Webcatalog???? > >cheers, > >Rick >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ > >OPEN MARKET PATENTS SOUND ECOMMERCE ALARM > The company announces it won patents on three widely >used > ecommerce technologies -- online shopping carts, >session tracking > and real-time credit card transactions. Depending on >how broadly > the patents are interpreted, it could mean the vast >majority of > ecommerce sites are currently using ecommerce apps that >are the > intellectual property of Open Market. And Open Market's >CEO > makes it clear the company will try to get violators to >buy its > software or sign licensing agreements. Our take: It's >unlikely courts > will interpret this so broadly, and with billions at >stake there's a good > chance someone will be willing to find out. > >http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_1833.html > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Key Options Pty. Ltd. >P.O. Box 1150 >Castle Hill, NSW, 2154 >Australia > >Tel:+61-2-9899-9564 >Fax:+61-2-9899-9318 >Mob: 0412-205-113 > >-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > >mQBPAzNMLcoAAAECAL5yuN2krMXeMwfcZPvWFJ0d6oMd++Pafsx0MkIGoTmHLz9i >LYHOiyZfeWNcLRd4c6xHlPN36lyPe9Uw9jwbaQEAEQEAAbQiUmljaGFyZCBXeWxp >ZSA8cmlja3dAbWFnbmEuY29tLmF1PokAVQMFEDNLoSp71TD2PBtpAQEB3kMCAKQ5 >zd+aPODE2zw2Rht1duf4kVV6yXdC+ZSGYT0uGmkidgHS/Jw+uJvzHnKvR2ziAFrV >pYMY6WMaf06yWFvekvc= >=prwK >-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- John A. Hill, V.P. Marketing Pacific Coast Software eCommerce / Web Developer Tools http://www.smithmicro.com
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