Re: webten vs. webstar
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1998
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numero = 20192
interpreted = N
texte = We are running a major ecommerce site on WebTen/WebCatalog, with another one coming online probably this week, and three more planned for the remainder of the year. We have good and bad to say about WebTen. So far we have decided to stick with WebTen, although I wish now we had started with WebStar, whatever its limitations.WebTen's good points: it's so wonderful to be able to configure the server by editing a text file. You can quickly setup like 600 redirects, or add 60 virtual hosts. It's generally a very elegant, well thought-out product. Technical support is truly amazing. We run dual stack, which works well. But the reason we are stuck with WebTen is that you can run multiple certificates, and we want to run multiple secure sites on the server, at least in the short run. Installing and configuring the program initially was a breeze.However, Tenon has not done a good job in my opinion of publicizing known problems with the product, and this has resulted in MUCH lost time on our part (and extreme frustration). Worse, we continue to experience an unacceptable level of unreliability due to WebTen. It simply stops serving pages periodically, but still responds to pings and doesn't crash the machine or the program. So not only is it unreliable, but we have yet to find a way to automate restarts (though today's efforts may change this). Over the course of a few weeks and now almost 80 megabytes of log files, scanned with BBEdit, we have been able to identify at least a couple of specfic problems.Tenon appears to be taking these problems very seriously, and I am optimistic that these particular problems at least will be resolved in the next few weeks.So I do highly recommend WebTen and Tenon, but I wouldn't try to run a website on it today if you have another choice. I'd give it another few weeks, and I'll try to remember to post my experiences then.Others have reported wonderful luck with this product, so don't read too much into our experiences.-mark
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We are running a major ecommerce site on WebTen/WebCatalog, with another one coming online probably this week, and three more planned for the remainder of the year. We have good and bad to say about WebTen. So far we have decided to stick with WebTen, although I wish now we had started with WebStar, whatever its limitations.WebTen's good points: it's so wonderful to be able to configure the server by editing a text file. You can quickly setup like 600 redirects, or add 60 virtual hosts. It's generally a very elegant, well thought-out product. Technical support is truly amazing. We run dual stack, which works well. But the reason we are stuck with WebTen is that you can run multiple certificates, and we want to run multiple secure sites on the server, at least in the short run. Installing and configuring the program initially was a breeze.However, Tenon has not done a good job in my opinion of publicizing known problems with the product, and this has resulted in MUCH lost time on our part (and extreme frustration). Worse, we continue to experience an unacceptable level of unreliability due to WebTen. It simply stops serving pages periodically, but still responds to pings and doesn't crash the machine or the program. So not only is it unreliable, but we have yet to find a way to automate restarts (though today's efforts may change this). Over the course of a few weeks and now almost 80 megabytes of log files, scanned with BBEdit, we have been able to identify at least a couple of specfic problems.Tenon appears to be taking these problems very seriously, and I am optimistic that these particular problems at least will be resolved in the next few weeks.So I do highly recommend WebTen and Tenon, but I wouldn't try to run a website on it today if you have another choice. I'd give it another few weeks, and I'll try to remember to post my experiences then.Others have reported wonderful luck with this product, so don't read too much into our experiences.-mark
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