Re: Client-side Image Maps and WebCat?
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texte = Geez, my apologies. Am I overly tired or what?I could have swore I just saved that post last night because I was too tired to finish it. So if it sounded like a half-written post that's cause it was !Anyway thanks for the response. Since I'm working in a void on this end (no computer buddies to hash stuff about with) it was wonderful seeing those posts this morning.>>What I have is what DreamWeaver creates - so my homepage has a next >>button that calls up the next page. This page has several category >>choices (French, Country etc.) which have buttons that take them to a >>main page for that category. Then sub-categories offer choices (such as >>pots and pans etc.). So a link to the first page of that and then next >>buttons till end of sub-category.>So you're not using WebCatalog for any of this, it's all just straight HTML.Ummm. . . Should I be using WebCatalog for this??? I thought those pages were created in a page-layout program (such as DreamWeaver) and then homepages etc. just got pulled into my website folder on Tenon.I had thought WebCat dealt with the product end of things. Since none of the above dealt with the products I thought WebCat wasn't involved.See, I don't have a problem with making modifications on this end but the difficulty lies in my knowing what I'm trying to modify to fit.I didn't see what I was doing as unique in a functioning sense. Each product will have a buy now option (plus have specific info, be added to cart, have shipping costs etc.) which is the same as other sites I visited. They had things broken down into categories and subcategories like I do. Everyone has multiple products displayed on a page.Because of the type of product I'm working with my focus has been on creating a visual ambiance that is conducive to browsing.>WebCat does not serve graphics, that's true, and that's what I said in a previous >post. But that does not mean the layout of your site lends itself to creating >dynamic web pages using WebCatalog ...>WebCatalog will work in this situation, you just won't be able to take >advantage of all the niceties of a database-driven site (such sites >typically need no more than 7 HTML pages to handle 100,000 products, >compared to static sites that would need 100,000 HTML pages for the exact >same thing).Hmmmm . . .What I'm obviously not getting here is what is required for a site to be considered a data-driven site.I will have a data-base. Product gets purchased, shipping costs get generated, credit cards get validated etc.In what way have I veered off the tried and true?What kind of layout does WebCatalog need?Are a series of templates required for WebCat to function?Does it care if it has many pages rather than 7? I can see where less is better as far as maintaining a site is concerned but to do what I want visually I'll need to strive for a happy medium (as far as number of pages is concerned).Are multimedia effects possible?I want to take advantage of what WebCat offers but I'm unsure at this point as to how to modify to make that happen.My limitation is that I have a large amount of product that is displayed by multiple product on one graphic. Very pretty graphics at that. So using those is a must on this end.So my challenge has been how to incorporate WebCatalog in such a way that it does function at its best while having multiple products showing in a graphic.Now WebCat doesn't serve or care about this large graphic. . . so it should be possible.To me the easiest way that I saw to make my page functional was to put a real cute add to cart button next to the product which then turns the image into a client-side image map. Now I have software that enables me to do this. So I figure I'm in business . . . I'd just type in an address to WebCat . . . >From ya'lls reaction I'm assuming that perhaps this complicates things in some profound way.I can present an add to cart option in a different manner.Should I make a list of product at the bottom of each page with add to cart buttons next to each. Then WebCat wouldn't be working with the graphic via the image-map so WebCat could work with one product at a time. Would this be a more viable layout?My only need is to be able to present a large graphic with multiple product at the same time as an add to cart for each product is offered.So anyway I don't have a problem with changing my layout I'm just stuck with those graphics.>I still need to see your site in order to give you a strategy.I'm the one that's running in a loop-back mode on a machine not hooked to the internet. (I'll be co-locating once my sites are done.)I have had a business line installed so I do have extra phone lines now. My local provider said I can get more than one account with him. If I hook up the machine I'm working on as a server to the internet via a modem and regular phone line could you access my site that way? I know it would be slow but can the TCP thing be set so it will work? ?Or is there another way to access what I'm working on before I'm co-located? Thank you very much for your responses,Robin
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Geez, my apologies. Am I overly tired or what?I could have swore I just saved that post last night because I was too tired to finish it. So if it sounded like a half-written post that's cause it was !Anyway thanks for the response. Since I'm working in a void on this end (no computer buddies to hash stuff about with) it was wonderful seeing those posts this morning.>>What I have is what DreamWeaver creates - so my homepage has a next >>button that calls up the next page. This page has several category >>choices (French, Country etc.) which have buttons that take them to a >>main page for that category. Then sub-categories offer choices (such as >>pots and pans etc.). So a link to the first page of that and then next >>buttons till end of sub-category.>So you're not using WebCatalog for any of this, it's all just straight HTML.Ummm. . . Should I be using WebCatalog for this??? I thought those pages were created in a page-layout program (such as DreamWeaver) and then homepages etc. just got pulled into my website folder on Tenon.I had thought WebCat dealt with the product end of things. Since none of the above dealt with the products I thought WebCat wasn't involved.See, I don't have a problem with making modifications on this end but the difficulty lies in my knowing what I'm trying to modify to fit.I didn't see what I was doing as unique in a functioning sense. Each product will have a buy now option (plus have specific info, be added to cart, have shipping costs etc.) which is the same as other sites I visited. They had things broken down into categories and subcategories like I do. Everyone has multiple products displayed on a page.Because of the type of product I'm working with my focus has been on creating a visual ambiance that is conducive to browsing.>WebCat does not serve graphics, that's true, and that's what I said in a previous >post. But that does not mean the layout of your site lends itself to creating >dynamic web pages using WebCatalog ...>WebCatalog will work in this situation, you just won't be able to take >advantage of all the niceties of a database-driven site (such sites >typically need no more than 7 HTML pages to handle 100,000 products, >compared to static sites that would need 100,000 HTML pages for the exact >same thing).Hmmmm . . .What I'm obviously not getting here is what is required for a site to be considered a data-driven site.I will have a data-base. Product gets purchased, shipping costs get generated, credit cards get validated etc.In what way have I veered off the tried and true?What kind of layout does WebCatalog need?Are a series of templates required for WebCat to function?Does it care if it has many pages rather than 7? I can see where less is better as far as maintaining a site is concerned but to do what I want visually I'll need to strive for a happy medium (as far as number of pages is concerned).Are multimedia effects possible?I want to take advantage of what WebCat offers but I'm unsure at this point as to how to modify to make that happen.My limitation is that I have a large amount of product that is displayed by multiple product on one graphic. Very pretty graphics at that. So using those is a must on this end.So my challenge has been how to incorporate WebCatalog in such a way that it does function at its best while having multiple products showing in a graphic.Now WebCat doesn't serve or care about this large graphic. . . so it should be possible.To me the easiest way that I saw to make my page functional was to put a real cute add to cart button next to the product which then turns the image into a client-side image map. Now I have software that enables me to do this. So I figure I'm in business . . . I'd just type in an address to WebCat . . . >From ya'lls reaction I'm assuming that perhaps this complicates things in some profound way.I can present an add to cart option in a different manner.Should I make a list of product at the bottom of each page with add to cart buttons next to each. Then WebCat wouldn't be working with the graphic via the image-map so WebCat could work with one product at a time. Would this be a more viable layout?My only need is to be able to present a large graphic with multiple product at the same time as an add to cart for each product is offered.So anyway I don't have a problem with changing my layout I'm just stuck with those graphics.>I still need to see your site in order to give you a strategy.I'm the one that's running in a loop-back mode on a machine not hooked to the internet. (I'll be co-locating once my sites are done.)I have had a business line installed so I do have extra phone lines now. My local provider said I can get more than one account with him. If I hook up the machine I'm working on as a server to the internet via a modem and regular phone line could you access my site that way? I know it would be slow but can the TCP thing be set so it will work? ?Or is there another way to access what I'm working on before I'm co-located? Thank you very much for your responses,Robin
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