Re: Capturing the referring site

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1999


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 23387
interpreted = N
texte = Sandra et al, I recommend capturing the referring site for each cart and keeping it in a (separate) referrer database.1) I wouldn't want to put a referrer in a shopping cart because its content's seem very unpredictable to me (i.e.. it can be some freaky ASCII junk), and I don't want to risk the integrity or consistency of my shopping cart files.2) As for the overhead issues of an extra [showif[lookup]][append][referrer]...., you probably couldn't notice it; WebCat is very fast and efficient with stuff like this. Most of the really big sites have at least this much stuff going on behind the scenes.Steve Stevewa PAt 08:41 PM 2/5/99, you wrote: >A cart # is created when they enter the site, but the file is only >written to disk when an item or header is created for that cart. >Usually, by that time, the [referrer] information is gone. > >It depends on your traffic and database situation on whether or not >creating a cart for each visitor is a performance hit. For one of my >clients, it is. > >>From what I've seen, cookies are about 98% or more reliable. > >It really depends on your situation. > >Regards, > >Sandy > > > >>Hmmm. I have been a little afraid of cookies, since not everyone turns >>them on. But in this case, I'm thinking that the cart file is written >>anyway, so what's one more field? I would only want to to be done when a >>new cart is created. That wouldn't add any overhead, would it? >> >>Sandra L. Pitner wrote: >>> >>> >Any chance that in the future, WebCat might capture the referring page >>> >whenever it creates a new cart, and write it to a field called >>ReferringSite? >>> >>> That's a well-intentioned idea, but it means a disk hit/file for each >>> visitor. Why not set the referrer in a cookie. Then if the shopper is >>> serious enough to store something in a cart, then retrieve the cookie >>> value. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Sandy >> >>-- >>Gil Poulsen, Webmaster >> >>************************************************************** >>* AltiM@c * Phone: (908) 222-9001 * >>* 111 Mali Drive * FAX: (908) 222-9002 * >>* North Plainfield, NJ * e-mail: help@altimac.com * >>* 07062-2355 * WWW: http://www.altimac.com * >>************************************************************** >> >> > >Steve Rosenbaum steve@pop-art.com http://www.pop-art.com (503) 968-5957 Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Capturing the referring site (Steve Rosenbaum 1999)
  2. Re: Capturing the referring site (Sandra L. Pitner 1999)
  3. Re: Capturing the referring site (Gil Poulsen 1999)
  4. Re: Capturing the referring site (Sandra L. Pitner 1999)
  5. Capturing the referring site (Gil Poulsen 1999)
Sandra et al, I recommend capturing the referring site for each cart and keeping it in a (separate) referrer database.1) I wouldn't want to put a referrer in a shopping cart because its content's seem very unpredictable to me (i.e.. it can be some freaky ASCII junk), and I don't want to risk the integrity or consistency of my shopping cart files.2) As for the overhead issues of an extra [showif[lookup]][append][referrer]...., you probably couldn't notice it; WebCat is very fast and efficient with stuff like this. Most of the really big sites have at least this much stuff going on behind the scenes.Steve Stevewa PAt 08:41 PM 2/5/99, you wrote: >A cart # is created when they enter the site, but the file is only >written to disk when an item or header is created for that cart. >Usually, by that time, the [referrer] information is gone. > >It depends on your traffic and database situation on whether or not >creating a cart for each visitor is a performance hit. For one of my >clients, it is. > >>From what I've seen, cookies are about 98% or more reliable. > >It really depends on your situation. > >Regards, > >Sandy > > > >>Hmmm. I have been a little afraid of cookies, since not everyone turns >>them on. But in this case, I'm thinking that the cart file is written >>anyway, so what's one more field? I would only want to to be done when a >>new cart is created. That wouldn't add any overhead, would it? >> >>Sandra L. Pitner wrote: >>> >>> >Any chance that in the future, WebCat might capture the referring page >>> >whenever it creates a new cart, and write it to a field called >>ReferringSite? >>> >>> That's a well-intentioned idea, but it means a disk hit/file for each >>> visitor. Why not set the referrer in a cookie. Then if the shopper is >>> serious enough to store something in a cart, then retrieve the cookie >>> value. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> >>> Sandy >> >>-- >>Gil Poulsen, Webmaster >> >>************************************************************** >>* AltiM@c * Phone: (908) 222-9001 * >>* 111 Mali Drive * FAX: (908) 222-9002 * >>* North Plainfield, NJ * e-mail: help@altimac.com * >>* 07062-2355 * WWW: http://www.altimac.com * >>************************************************************** >> >> > >Steve Rosenbaum steve@pop-art.com http://www.pop-art.com (503) 968-5957 Steve Rosenbaum

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