Re: Typhoon Rev. and PCS store problems

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1999

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texte = on 11/17/99 8:11 PM, Kenneth Grome at ken@simplewebstores.com wrote:>>> This is just plain WRONG John, how can you tell people this?>>> >>> For those who needs the facts, it is Typhoon Pro -- not Typhoon -- that has>>> the same code base as webcatalog 3.x. Typhoon Pro and Typhoon are two very>>> different products, and John seems to be mixing them up. Here is a simple>>> outline of their differences:>> >> Ken:>> >> Not only is that message insulting, but misinformed. Please don't make>> statements like this in the future unless you know what you are talking>> about.> > > Okay I won't, sorry for the error.> > There's a good reason why I an relying on outdated information. You guys never> bother to explain this stuff until some one asks, and then you never really> bother to explain it properly until someone like me posts wrong information> disputing your claims. Of course there's no information on your website to> explain this stuff either. It's no wonder that no one has any idea what the> differences are in your webdna products.> > I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining the differences in features between> the cheap ($99) version of Typhoon and Typhoon Pro:> > 1- Can Typhoon ($99 version) use [text] variables?> > 2- Can Typhoon ($99 version) interpret encrypted templates?> > 3- Were any new features added to Typhoon ($99 version) when you upgraded> WebCatalog to 3.x, or is everything still basically the same as far as> features are concerned?> > ================================> Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant> 808-737-6499, http://webdna.net> ================================Yes, I agree with Ken here. At some point in time it would be nice to knowwhat product I can offer for a given project for a given consulting client.(real product, I can not point a server consulting client to informationabout Typhoon Pro right now, and trying to tell them, Oh its just likeWebcatalog, without this and this and oh I think this... just does not fly,get my meaning?)I am rapidly looking at other software products because of just completelack of information (for some time now) on just what I stated above. Inever had the question answered, which I am sure I asked (I may have missedthe response so don't shoot me), but will there be a Typhoon Pro/WebcatalogLite, whatever) for the unix bases that you created Webcatalog for... I haveprobably 5 clients that would love to use WebDNA solutions, but will notfork out $2500 for just a high speed database (they don't need ecommerce atall for these projects), but again trying to convince them to buy somethingthey can not read about directly, or even see it for sale on the makers website just scares the hell out of them... so we are working with anothercompany/product that so far seems it will fit what we need, and they haveinformation on their web site to back it up.Even though its a completely different topic not only would I love to thankSmith Micro for Webcatalog Creator (or whatever the lowcost static storefront software is called), but even more so for a) not announcing it to thislist of long time purchasers/supporters of Webcatalog, and b) if you aregoing to make a product, why did you not include the MacOS as a version...(just something that has been bugging me).We stopped using Webstar because we felt the product was not moving in theright direction, and focusing on what larger scale web sites need now, andthey have instead focused on things like integrated email, search engine,etc, but...We were happy to see that our choice of platforms, Redhat Linux/Apache wasone of the first to be supported by the current Webcatalog growth... but nowit seems we must move on to other products because so far things have justbecome more complex/hidden since the Smith Micro deal then ever in the past.Sorry to drag this on, but just hoping maybe someone at Pacific-Coast/SmithMicro will realize offering low cost solutions (Webcatalog Creator), notmarketing what people have been asking for (Typhoon Pro), not supplying uswith updated information (I too was under the assumption that our Typhoonserial number was worthless to us, because we have moved beyond what Wcat2.x code was providing us, not knowing we could be using an expanded set ofWcat 3x code with Typhoon), and in general being alittle more open about thefuture of ALL of these products. I know company mergers cause problems, andit takes time, but its been weeks/months since it happend. Please keep usall informed...Sincerely,--Nevin Lyneadmin@gippy.net - AOL IM: gippynetGippy's Internet Solutionshttp://www.gippy.net/ - (888) 419-1871---------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to  Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

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on 11/17/99 8:11 PM, Kenneth Grome at ken@simplewebstores.com wrote:>>> This is just plain WRONG John, how can you tell people this?>>> >>> For those who needs the facts, it is Typhoon Pro -- not Typhoon -- that has>>> the same code base as webcatalog 3.x. Typhoon Pro and Typhoon are two very>>> different products, and John seems to be mixing them up. Here is a simple>>> outline of their differences:>> >> Ken:>> >> Not only is that message insulting, but misinformed. Please don't make>> statements like this in the future unless you know what you are talking>> about.> > > Okay I won't, sorry for the error.> > There's a good reason why I an relying on outdated information. You guys never> bother to explain this stuff until some one asks, and then you never really> bother to explain it properly until someone like me posts wrong information> disputing your claims. Of course there's no information on your website to> explain this stuff either. It's no wonder that no one has any idea what the> differences are in your webdna products.> > I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining the differences in features between> the cheap ($99) version of Typhoon and Typhoon Pro:> > 1- Can Typhoon ($99 version) use [text] variables?> > 2- Can Typhoon ($99 version) interpret encrypted templates?> > 3- Were any new features added to Typhoon ($99 version) when you upgraded> WebCatalog to 3.x, or is everything still basically the same as far as> features are concerned?> > ================================> Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant> 808-737-6499, http://webdna.net> ================================Yes, I agree with Ken here. At some point in time it would be nice to knowwhat product I can offer for a given project for a given consulting client.(real product, I can not point a server consulting client to informationabout Typhoon Pro right now, and trying to tell them, Oh its just likeWebcatalog, without this and this and oh I think this... just does not fly,get my meaning?)I am rapidly looking at other software products because of just completelack of information (for some time now) on just what I stated above. Inever had the question answered, which I am sure I asked (I may have missedthe response so don't shoot me), but will there be a Typhoon Pro/WebcatalogLite, whatever) for the unix bases that you created Webcatalog for... I haveprobably 5 clients that would love to use WebDNA solutions, but will notfork out $2500 for just a high speed database (they don't need ecommerce atall for these projects), but again trying to convince them to buy somethingthey can not read about directly, or even see it for sale on the makers website just scares the hell out of them... so we are working with anothercompany/product that so far seems it will fit what we need, and they haveinformation on their web site to back it up.Even though its a completely different topic not only would I love to thankSmith Micro for Webcatalog Creator (or whatever the lowcost static storefront software is called), but even more so for a) not announcing it to thislist of long time purchasers/supporters of Webcatalog, and b) if you aregoing to make a product, why did you not include the MacOS as a version...(just something that has been bugging me).We stopped using Webstar because we felt the product was not moving in theright direction, and focusing on what larger scale web sites need now, andthey have instead focused on things like integrated email, search engine,etc, but...We were happy to see that our choice of platforms, Redhat Linux/Apache wasone of the first to be supported by the current Webcatalog growth... but nowit seems we must move on to other products because so far things have justbecome more complex/hidden since the Smith Micro deal then ever in the past.Sorry to drag this on, but just hoping maybe someone at Pacific-Coast/SmithMicro will realize offering low cost solutions (Webcatalog Creator), notmarketing what people have been asking for (Typhoon Pro), not supplying uswith updated information (I too was under the assumption that our Typhoonserial number was worthless to us, because we have moved beyond what Wcat2.x code was providing us, not knowing we could be using an expanded set ofWcat 3x code with Typhoon), and in general being alittle more open about thefuture of ALL of these products. I know company mergers cause problems, andit takes time, but its been weeks/months since it happend. Please keep usall informed...Sincerely,--Nevin Lyneadmin@gippy.net - AOL IM: gippynetGippy's Internet Solutionshttp://www.gippy.net/ - (888) 419-1871---------------------------------------------------------------Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server.To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to  J Lane

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