Re[2]: php vs WebCatalog
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It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 27059
interpreted = N
texte = WHat does all this crap have to do with WebCatalog?Please deal with this stuff privately, thanks ... :)>Jerome - > >Please write me a cart number generator. Do it in pseudo-code, PHP, or even C; >doesn't matter to me. Make sure it can handle 1000's of hits per second without >creating a dupe. I don't think you have even considered how to do it, let alone >tried. > >I also don't think you have checked the random number generator in PHP >sufficiently to be able to say that it is superior to WebCat. The only, and I >mean ONLY, perfect random number generator is hardware based. Intel was >supposed to include a RAND() generator on their CPU's (based on a leaky >transistor model) but it got caught up in the controversy with the CPU serial >number. I haven't heard anything about it since then. > >Many software random number generators are not even vaguely random. I suspect >that WebCat relies on whatever the platform can provide, which means that it >will vary based on the platform (and sometime even the version of the libraries >included). The added complication that most data is not distributed randomly to >begin with and you can quickly come to the conclusion that a random process is >less than random, and vice versa. > >If you will re-read what I wrote, I like MySQL for certain applications. >Because of the file format, it is not suitable for applications with a lot of >delete/append cycles. ISP authentication is 99.999% lookups, 0.001% password >changes. Not surpassing that MySQL could handle it. You are not expecting that >ebay or amazon switch over to MySQL because it's free, are you? > >I also was critical of Dave because I think complaining about the cost of WebCat >is childish. Professional software costs money; being in business means having >a certain level of cash on hand to operate. Borland's new C++ Builder 5 is >$2500/user for the Enterprise edition. The nearest comparable e-commerce >packages to WebCat was $10,000 the last time I checked. It is possible to do >everything that WebCat does with a general purpose package like PHP, but I would >guess it would take 100 hours of programming to recreate most of what you would >need. > >I use Perl a lot; I have several Linux servers in place. I also bought a >commercial firewall (Watchguard) which is based on a Linux kernal, because I >didn't have time to deal with ipchains. I save money when it makes sense and >spend money when it make sense. I converted our primary order entry/warehousing >system using Perl/DBI/DBD::Oracle, so I know the value of free software. It >also took me the better part of two years to do it. The cost of WebCatalog is >reasonable compared to the development time to replace it, even with it's >shortcomings. > >John Peacock > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. >To end your Mail problems go to
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WHat does all this crap have to do with WebCatalog?Please deal with this stuff privately, thanks ... :)>Jerome - > >Please write me a cart number generator. Do it in pseudo-code, PHP, or even C; >doesn't matter to me. Make sure it can handle 1000's of hits per second without >creating a dupe. I don't think you have even considered how to do it, let alone >tried. > >I also don't think you have checked the random number generator in PHP >sufficiently to be able to say that it is superior to WebCat. The only, and I >mean ONLY, perfect random number generator is hardware based. Intel was >supposed to include a RAND() generator on their CPU's (based on a leaky >transistor model) but it got caught up in the controversy with the CPU serial >number. I haven't heard anything about it since then. > >Many software random number generators are not even vaguely random. I suspect >that WebCat relies on whatever the platform can provide, which means that it >will vary based on the platform (and sometime even the version of the libraries >included). The added complication that most data is not distributed randomly to >begin with and you can quickly come to the conclusion that a random process is >less than random, and vice versa. > >If you will re-read what I wrote, I like MySQL for certain applications. >Because of the file format, it is not suitable for applications with a lot of >delete/append cycles. ISP authentication is 99.999% lookups, 0.001% password >changes. Not surpassing that MySQL could handle it. You are not expecting that >ebay or amazon switch over to MySQL because it's free, are you? > >I also was critical of Dave because I think complaining about the cost of WebCat >is childish. Professional software costs money; being in business means having >a certain level of cash on hand to operate. Borland's new C++ Builder 5 is >$2500/user for the Enterprise edition. The nearest comparable e-commerce >packages to WebCat was $10,000 the last time I checked. It is possible to do >everything that WebCat does with a general purpose package like PHP, but I would >guess it would take 100 hours of programming to recreate most of what you would >need. > >I use Perl a lot; I have several Linux servers in place. I also bought a >commercial firewall (Watchguard) which is based on a Linux kernal, because I >didn't have time to deal with ipchains. I save money when it makes sense and >spend money when it make sense. I converted our primary order entry/warehousing >system using Perl/DBI/DBD::Oracle, so I know the value of free software. It >also took me the better part of two years to do it. The cost of WebCatalog is >reasonable compared to the development time to replace it, even with it's >shortcomings. > >John Peacock > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. >To end your Mail problems go to . > >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to ================================ Kenneth Grome, WebDNA Consultant 808-737-6499, http://webdna.net ================================------------------------------------------------------------- Brought to you by CommuniGate Pro - The Buzz Word Compliant Messaging Server. To end your Mail problems go to .This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to
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