Re: migrating from MacOS to unix
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texte = I haven't been able to get suid to work with perl, any hints. It just gives the typical configuration error message when I set the suid bit. ml>The only thing I would add to Dale's message is that you should prepare >now for how you are going to deal with updating databases/templates/etc >on the Unix system. Most of the problems caused by file rights issues >are actually related to people wanting to FTP their database over to the >server and not change the file ownership once it gets there. > >WebCat, like virtually all *nix daemons, runs as a special user with >very limited rights (usually called nobody). In order for the daemon to >access your database files, it must own the file or be a member of the >group that owns the file (I'm assuming -rw-rw----). It is generally a >bad idea to give anyone else access to these files either, because that >can have negative security consequences on the other daemons which run >as nobody. > >Since you have a unix head (admin? guru?) in house, have her set up a >staging area for you to upload into that is a match for the directory >structure of your test area. Then have him create a suid script to move >files from staging to test (and from test to live), so that you won't >have to play with the rights all the time. I would give you my scripts, >but I haven't written them yet (I'm still in love with WebSite ;~). > >John Peacock > >Dale LaFountain wrote: >> >> >Anyone have any ideas on how difficult it is to install WebCatalog on a unix >> >system vs. say on MacOS. Let's say that there is a unix head in the shop and >> >we have lots of MacOS experience and lots of experience with WebCatalog on >> >MacOS. We want to move an application from MacOS to unix. What pitfalls are >> >there and would a unix head and the WebCat docs be enough to make our way >> >through an install? >> > >> >What flavors of unix does WebCat run on? >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> >scottie >> > >> >> The biggest issues are with case sensitivity in your templates. All >> file, include, and db references must match case with the filesystem. >> On the MacOS, you can be lazy and get away with mixed case all over >> the place, which bit us pretty badly when we tried to move our >> templates over to MacOSX server. >> >> Other than that, most people seem to have problems getting >> permissions tweaked correctly for webcat to play nice with db files >> (although we didn't have that problem ourselves). >> >> As for platforms, Webcat runs on Linux (redhad and cobalt, I >> believe), Solaris, and MacOSX server. >> >> I found the webcat unix docs sufficient to get things running, but >> you definitely need someone with Unix and apache experience handy to >> wade through all the configuration issues. > > > > -Dale > > -- > > > > Dale LaFountain > > Vice President of Information Technology, WebMaster > > Dark Horse Comics, Inc. mailto:dalel@darkhorse.com > > Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 http://www.darkhorse.com/ > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list
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I haven't been able to get suid to work with perl, any hints. It just gives the typical configuration error message when I set the suid bit. ml>The only thing I would add to Dale's message is that you should prepare >now for how you are going to deal with updating databases/templates/etc >on the Unix system. Most of the problems caused by file rights issues >are actually related to people wanting to FTP their database over to the >server and not change the file ownership once it gets there. > >WebCat, like virtually all *nix daemons, runs as a special user with >very limited rights (usually called nobody). In order for the daemon to >access your database files, it must own the file or be a member of the >group that owns the file (I'm assuming -rw-rw----). It is generally a >bad idea to give anyone else access to these files either, because that >can have negative security consequences on the other daemons which run >as nobody. > >Since you have a unix head (admin? guru?) in house, have her set up a >staging area for you to upload into that is a match for the directory >structure of your test area. Then have him create a suid script to move >files from staging to test (and from test to live), so that you won't >have to play with the rights all the time. I would give you my scripts, >but I haven't written them yet (I'm still in love with WebSite ;~). > >John Peacock > >Dale LaFountain wrote: >> >> >Anyone have any ideas on how difficult it is to install WebCatalog on a unix >> >system vs. say on MacOS. Let's say that there is a unix head in the shop and >> >we have lots of MacOS experience and lots of experience with WebCatalog on >> >MacOS. We want to move an application from MacOS to unix. What pitfalls are >> >there and would a unix head and the WebCat docs be enough to make our way >> >through an install? >> > >> >What flavors of unix does WebCat run on? >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> >scottie >> > >> >> The biggest issues are with case sensitivity in your templates. All >> file, include, and db references must match case with the filesystem. >> On the MacOS, you can be lazy and get away with mixed case all over >> the place, which bit us pretty badly when we tried to move our >> templates over to MacOSX server. >> >> Other than that, most people seem to have problems getting >> permissions tweaked correctly for webcat to play nice with db files >> (although we didn't have that problem ourselves). >> >> As for platforms, Webcat runs on Linux (redhad and cobalt, I >> believe), Solaris, and MacOSX server. >> >> I found the webcat unix docs sufficient to get things running, but >> you definitely need someone with Unix and apache experience handy to >> wade through all the configuration issues. > > > > -Dale > > -- > > > > Dale LaFountain > > Vice President of Information Technology, WebMaster > > Dark Horse Comics, Inc. mailto:dalel@darkhorse.com > > Phone: 503-652-8815 x324 http://www.darkhorse.com/ > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/-- \|/ (. .) _________________________ooO_(_)_Ooo_____________________________ Mark Lacas mailto:mark@lacas.com Virtual Loft / Seattle HarborCam: http://www.loftcam.com/ SeattleStuff WebCommerce Community: http://www.seattlestuff.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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