Re: WebTrends
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It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = By the way, my webDNA solution is really not much more than a fancy hit counter for the site, though I'd think it's much more accurate (it won't count the same visiting session and a return visit is not a unique visit, etc). Surely it's not a WebTrends replacement but has been a nice thing to add to clients sites to keep them happy when a monthly (or weekly?) complete log analysis isn't available frequently enough.GK Another program/tool: http://www.nedstat.com/ I think it's one of the best.Kind regards, Harmen van EsJambolaya Eisenhowerlaan 37 3844 AS Harderwijk The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)341 429629 Fax: +31 (0)341 429029 E-mail: helpdesk@jambolaya.com Internet: www.jambolaya.com-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] Namens Nitai @ ComputerOil Verzonden: dinsdag 20 augustus 2002 13:10 Aan: WebCatalog Talk Onderwerp: Re: WebTrendsDale,Check out summary at http://www.summary.net. Also a really nice tool.Sincerely Nitai Aventaggiato CEOOn 20.8.2002 12:48 PM, Andrew Simpson
wrote:> How did you know that? > > Have you been hacking my code? > > ...Do I even know you??? > > On 20/8/02 10:37 PM, Alain Russell > wrote: > >> The revenue figures on this report are generated with a text log file in >> EML format, the storeappends to this file every time an order is placed .. >> some more Andrew >> magic ;) >> >>> Price is a concern (at least at the moment) for me. >>> >>> Most of the sites I host are for non-profits along with a couple of >>> community sites of my own. Non of them bring me any money at all. Right >>> now I am trying out wusage, in part because they offer a great >>> non-profit discount (the main non-profit I host for is 501c registered >>> in the US) and since they can turn the numbers in as justification for >>> some grants they get, they can afford to pay for the non-profit version >>> of the license. >>> >>> Urchin looks real nice, I wonder how they get revenue numbers, unless >>> you have to manually enter that someplace. >>> >>> Seems the new version (4.x) now has a higher price tag - $695.00 >>> probably good value for the money, but too rich for me right now. >>> >>> Thanks for the link. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Simpson wrote: >>> >>>>> From your post to the list check this out: >>>> >>>> http://stats.blackpepper.co.nz/logicalsystems.co.nz >>>> >>>> We use a site reporting package called Urchin which taps into the web >>>> server >>>> logs. >>>> >>>> It is very very cool and does extremely neat things. >>>> >>>> I think $3-$400 US dollars buys you a 25 site license which also >>>> includes an >>>> overall web server 3system report2 with $250 US Dollars buying >>>> additional >>>> licenses. >>>> >>>> I First saw this price tag and decided to write something in DNA >>>> myself and >>>> ran that for about a year but it got tricky when you want to do things >>>> like >>>> average time a user spends on your site, where they came from, the >>>> search >>>> terms they used in a search engine to get to your site, dynamically >>>> graph >>>> the results over different time periods, track a single user or group >>>> of users from entry to exit through each click, measure users, >>>> pageviews as well as hits, ecommerce reporting... Plus the databases >>>> would get to 50-60mb >>>> in a week and I had to write a rolling log system and the >>>> off-the-shelf way >>>> is soo much easier. >>>> >>>> Its neat software - check it out. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20/8/02 11:59 AM, Gary Krockover wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a db of about 300 bots. If the [browser] visiting matches a >>>>> record, >>>>> then it displays in red with an indexed by (or however I worded >>>>> it). >>>>> >>>>> GK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.garykrockover.com/admin.html Click on the View Log >>>>>>> link, >>>>> and >>>>>>> don't laugh at my low visitor count :) >>>>>> >>>>>> This is neat, but how does WC know when the site is spidered and by >>>>>> which >>>>> bot? >>>>>> >>>>>> Glenn-- Tools to energize your business Content Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil GmbH http://computeroil.com/ Hauptstrasse 12 info@computeroil.com 8252 Schlatt/Switzerland Tel: +41 (0)52 654 15 55 Fax: +41 (0)52 654 15 59 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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By the way, my webDNA solution is really not much more than a fancy hit counter for the site, though I'd think it's much more accurate (it won't count the same visiting session and a return visit is not a unique visit, etc). Surely it's not a WebTrends replacement but has been a nice thing to add to clients sites to keep them happy when a monthly (or weekly?) complete log analysis isn't available frequently enough.GK Another program/tool: http://www.nedstat.com/ I think it's one of the best.Kind regards, Harmen van EsJambolaya Eisenhowerlaan 37 3844 AS Harderwijk The Netherlands Tel: +31 (0)341 429629 Fax: +31 (0)341 429029 E-mail: helpdesk@jambolaya.com Internet: www.jambolaya.com-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] Namens Nitai @ ComputerOil Verzonden: dinsdag 20 augustus 2002 13:10 Aan: WebCatalog Talk Onderwerp: Re: WebTrendsDale,Check out summary at http://www.summary.net. Also a really nice tool.Sincerely Nitai Aventaggiato CEOOn 20.8.2002 12:48 PM, Andrew Simpson wrote:> How did you know that? > > Have you been hacking my code? > > ...Do I even know you??? > > On 20/8/02 10:37 PM, Alain Russell > wrote: > >> The revenue figures on this report are generated with a text log file in >> EML format, the storeappends to this file every time an order is placed .. >> some more Andrew >> magic ;) >> >>> Price is a concern (at least at the moment) for me. >>> >>> Most of the sites I host are for non-profits along with a couple of >>> community sites of my own. Non of them bring me any money at all. Right >>> now I am trying out wusage, in part because they offer a great >>> non-profit discount (the main non-profit I host for is 501c registered >>> in the US) and since they can turn the numbers in as justification for >>> some grants they get, they can afford to pay for the non-profit version >>> of the license. >>> >>> Urchin looks real nice, I wonder how they get revenue numbers, unless >>> you have to manually enter that someplace. >>> >>> Seems the new version (4.x) now has a higher price tag - $695.00 >>> probably good value for the money, but too rich for me right now. >>> >>> Thanks for the link. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Simpson wrote: >>> >>>>> From your post to the list check this out: >>>> >>>> http://stats.blackpepper.co.nz/logicalsystems.co.nz >>>> >>>> We use a site reporting package called Urchin which taps into the web >>>> server >>>> logs. >>>> >>>> It is very very cool and does extremely neat things. >>>> >>>> I think $3-$400 US dollars buys you a 25 site license which also >>>> includes an >>>> overall web server 3system report2 with $250 US Dollars buying >>>> additional >>>> licenses. >>>> >>>> I First saw this price tag and decided to write something in DNA >>>> myself and >>>> ran that for about a year but it got tricky when you want to do things >>>> like >>>> average time a user spends on your site, where they came from, the >>>> search >>>> terms they used in a search engine to get to your site, dynamically >>>> graph >>>> the results over different time periods, track a single user or group >>>> of users from entry to exit through each click, measure users, >>>> pageviews as well as hits, ecommerce reporting... Plus the databases >>>> would get to 50-60mb >>>> in a week and I had to write a rolling log system and the >>>> off-the-shelf way >>>> is soo much easier. >>>> >>>> Its neat software - check it out. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 20/8/02 11:59 AM, Gary Krockover wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a db of about 300 bots. If the [browser] visiting matches a >>>>> record, >>>>> then it displays in red with an indexed by (or however I worded >>>>> it). >>>>> >>>>> GK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.garykrockover.com/admin.html Click on the View Log >>>>>>> link, >>>>> and >>>>>>> don't laugh at my low visitor count :) >>>>>> >>>>>> This is neat, but how does WC know when the site is spidered and by >>>>>> which >>>>> bot? >>>>>> >>>>>> Glenn-- Tools to energize your business Content Management & eBusiness SystemsComputerOil GmbH http://computeroil.com/ Hauptstrasse 12 info@computeroil.com 8252 Schlatt/Switzerland Tel: +41 (0)52 654 15 55 Fax: +41 (0)52 654 15 59 ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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