Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition

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texte = Oh, sorry - my bad :)Palle On torsdag, jan 9, 2003, at 22:52 Europe/Copenhagen, Phillip Bonesteele wrote:> > The press release stated: WebDNA Enterprise Edition will begin > shipping > early in 2003, not that it was finished or would ship next week. We > are > currently in the process of completing the final functional pieces and > performing QA, with a release date currently projected for later this > quarter. > > Phil B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Palle Bo Nielsen [mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:45 AM > To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com > Subject: Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition > > I don't get it. Didn't you just tell in a press-release that version > 5.0 was finished? If so, the specs should be official too... > > PowerPalle > > > > On onsdag, jan 8, 2003, at 23:46 Europe/Copenhagen, Phillip Bonesteele > wrote: > >> >> We are currently in the midst of a beta program for the 5.0 product >> that >> started back in November. We currently have a targeted group of >> customers >> and partners actively participating, most of whom are active >> participants in >> this talk list. We have chosen to control the size of the beta >> community >> simply so it doesn't become too large of a support burden while we are >> working to complete the functionality in preparation for functional >> freeze >> and QA testing. We can't support a large open 'public' beta and get >> the >> product finished. >> >> I can add a small number of additional beta testers to the program if >> anyone >> is interested in investing the time to actively use the new features. >> If >> so, please contact me off-list and I will talk with you about the >> program. >> I'm particularly interested in people who are quite expert at WebDNA, >> have >> an interest in building something really compelling with the new >> features, >> and are clearly advocates of the product ... and have time. Also, >> please >> understand that we do require a signed non-disclosure to participate >> in the >> program ... simply to ensure that any public disclosure of detailed >> information about the new language extensions, new features, etc., is >> performed only by SMSI staff. >> >> We began the 5.0 development effort in earnest roughly nine months >> ago. >> Building up to that in prior months, we did solicit input on >> requirements >> from a variety of sources, including this talk list. Thus, 5.0 is an >> amalgam of features, some specifically driven by requests made by >> members of >> this community, some driven by market forces, some from ideas from the >> SMSI >> team. As with any software product, these things get thrown together, >> stirred vigorously, ranked and prioritized, then some of them get into >> 5.0, >> and some get listed for 5.1, 5.2, etc. The old MSF triangle: >> Resources, >> Features, Time-to-market. >> >> In general, there are some downsides to publishing detailed >> specifications >> publicly significantly in advance of a new product offering ... for >> one >> thing there are competitive considerations. Also, during any product >> development effort, feature content and specific behavior can change >> ... >> being too public with a lot of detail can lock in expectations that >> may >> change as a development effort progresses. >> >> I'd be happy to discuss joining the beta program with anyone that is >> highly >> motivated to get early exposure to the new product features and use >> them to >> promote new solutions that are now possible with WebDNA 5.0. >> >> Phil Bonesteele >> Director e-business Products & Services >> SmithMicro Software, Inc. >> >> 949-360-8550 Aliso Viejo office >> 714-745-6852 Mobile >> 949-389-1747 FAX >> E-mail: pbonesteele@smithmicro.com >> Text Pager: pbonesteele.pager@smithmicro.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex McCombie [mailto:alex@newworldmedia.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:52 PM >> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com >> Subject: Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition >> >> On 1/7/03 4:36 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen >> wrote: >> >>> Could we get some specifications on the new product? >> Indeed. The website is the same PR. The developers resource online has >> no >> new information that I could find. >> >> I guess I am surprised somewhat to hear about the announcement of a >> new >> WebDNA engine, with slews of new features, while not ever having the >> opportunity to see it under dev.; alpha, beta, gm, etc. >> >> Have to admit, being a webcat person for so many many years, I find >> myself >> wishing for more input on the future of the products we have invested >> so >> highly in. Both financially and personally. >> >> That being said, some specs would be great start. Well, a start >> anyway. >> >> Alex >> >> >> Alex J McCombie New World Media >> Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 >> 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 >> Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com >> >> Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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  4. Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
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  8. Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition (Palle Bo Nielsen 2003)
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Oh, sorry - my bad :)Palle On torsdag, jan 9, 2003, at 22:52 Europe/Copenhagen, Phillip Bonesteele wrote:> > The press release stated: WebDNA Enterprise Edition will begin > shipping > early in 2003, not that it was finished or would ship next week. We > are > currently in the process of completing the final functional pieces and > performing QA, with a release date currently projected for later this > quarter. > > Phil B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Palle Bo Nielsen [mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:45 AM > To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com > Subject: Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition > > I don't get it. Didn't you just tell in a press-release that version > 5.0 was finished? If so, the specs should be official too... > > PowerPalle > > > > On onsdag, jan 8, 2003, at 23:46 Europe/Copenhagen, Phillip Bonesteele > wrote: > >> >> We are currently in the midst of a beta program for the 5.0 product >> that >> started back in November. We currently have a targeted group of >> customers >> and partners actively participating, most of whom are active >> participants in >> this Talk List. We have chosen to control the size of the beta >> community >> simply so it doesn't become too large of a support burden while we are >> working to complete the functionality in preparation for functional >> freeze >> and QA testing. We can't support a large open 'public' beta and get >> the >> product finished. >> >> I can add a small number of additional beta testers to the program if >> anyone >> is interested in investing the time to actively use the new features. >> If >> so, please contact me off-list and I will talk with you about the >> program. >> I'm particularly interested in people who are quite expert at WebDNA, >> have >> an interest in building something really compelling with the new >> features, >> and are clearly advocates of the product ... and have time. Also, >> please >> understand that we do require a signed non-disclosure to participate >> in the >> program ... simply to ensure that any public disclosure of detailed >> information about the new language extensions, new features, etc., is >> performed only by SMSI staff. >> >> We began the 5.0 development effort in earnest roughly nine months >> ago. >> Building up to that in prior months, we did solicit input on >> requirements >> from a variety of sources, including this Talk List. Thus, 5.0 is an >> amalgam of features, some specifically driven by requests made by >> members of >> this community, some driven by market forces, some from ideas from the >> SMSI >> team. As with any software product, these things get thrown together, >> stirred vigorously, ranked and prioritized, then some of them get into >> 5.0, >> and some get listed for 5.1, 5.2, etc. The old MSF triangle: >> Resources, >> Features, Time-to-market. >> >> In general, there are some downsides to publishing detailed >> specifications >> publicly significantly in advance of a new product offering ... for >> one >> thing there are competitive considerations. Also, during any product >> development effort, feature content and specific behavior can change >> ... >> being too public with a lot of detail can lock in expectations that >> may >> change as a development effort progresses. >> >> I'd be happy to discuss joining the beta program with anyone that is >> highly >> motivated to get early exposure to the new product features and use >> them to >> promote new solutions that are now possible with WebDNA 5.0. >> >> Phil Bonesteele >> Director e-business Products & Services >> SmithMicro Software, Inc. >> >> 949-360-8550 Aliso Viejo office >> 714-745-6852 Mobile >> 949-389-1747 FAX >> E-mail: pbonesteele@smithmicro.com >> Text Pager: pbonesteele.pager@smithmicro.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex McCombie [mailto:alex@newworldmedia.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:52 PM >> To: WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com >> Subject: Re: WebDNA 5.0 Enterprise Edition >> >> On 1/7/03 4:36 PM, Palle Bo Nielsen >> wrote: >> >>> Could we get some specifications on the new product? >> Indeed. The website is the same PR. The developers resource online has >> no >> new information that I could find. >> >> I guess I am surprised somewhat to hear about the announcement of a >> new >> WebDNA engine, with slews of new features, while not ever having the >> opportunity to see it under dev.; alpha, beta, gm, etc. >> >> Have to admit, being a webcat person for so many many years, I find >> myself >> wishing for more input on the future of the products we have invested >> so >> highly in. Both financially and personally. >> >> That being said, some specs would be great start. Well, a start >> anyway. >> >> Alex >> >> >> Alex J McCombie New World Media >> Chief Information Officer Drawer 607 >> 800/724.8973 Fair Haven, NY 13064 >> Alex@NewWorldMedia.com http://OurClients.com >> >> Interface Designer WebDNA Programmer Database Designer >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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