Re: Cart passing in URL...

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2004


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 58289
interpreted = N
texte = on 6/10/04 3:15 PM, John Peacock at jpeacock@rowman.com wrote: > Alan White wrote: > >> I am proposing passing [cart] as part of my URL like so to get to various >> areas of the site, notice the change in length of URL which would be in >> reference to my previous post to do with cart numbers. > > A) The length of the URL is strictly a UI issue (i.e. completely up to you); Okay... > > B) How is this going to interact with search engines, which will store > these cart values as if they were real URL values? > > In particular, each time the spider hits your top page and is assigned a > new cart, it will appear that you have completely new content. This > could lead to overspidering (read DENIAL OF SERVICE) of your site. Well this was my major concern as I have heard of being excluded from SE's for multiple doorways etc and I figured this was similar thing > > If you don't have any conceptual problem with long URL's, why not just > pass the cart as a URL parameter (like the good old days): > > http://www.hanon-shop.com/products/brand/mens_silas_clothing/?cart=12313083450 > 42523532 I may do some tests with this, how are bots likely to deal with this? I know that my processing template will only read everything up to the ? in the URL so my pages will still parse the way they are supposed to using this method. It then becomes an issue of whether or now we will be crawled or not. > > or use exclusively form submissions to move from page to page and pass > the cart as a hidden form variable. This in no way prevents you from > using a single page to handle all of the processing (which is what you > are intending to do, right?). Again I would have to do some tests for this method... > > FWIW, we use cookies and hidden form variables to provide a cleaner and > simpler UI for most of our sites. Some search pages will display all of > the nasty URL nonsense, but we aren't that concerned about it. How do you combine the use of both just out of interest? I haven't really had that much experience using cookies etc so I'm afraid I am having difficulty justifying their use to my employers also... I would be happy to use them as it would certainly make my life easier ;-) > > YMMV > > John Thanks for your help.... Alan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( Kenneth Grome 2004)
  2. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( Rob Marquardt 2004)
  3. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( devaulw@onebox.com 2004)
  4. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( Alan White 2004)
  5. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( eLists 2004)
  6. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( devaulw@onebox.com 2004)
  7. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( John Peacock 2004)
  8. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( Alan White 2004)
  9. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( devaulw@onebox.com 2004)
  10. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( Alan White 2004)
  11. Re: Cart passing in URL... ( John Peacock 2004)
  12. Cart passing in URL... ( Alan White 2004)
on 6/10/04 3:15 PM, John Peacock at jpeacock@rowman.com wrote: > Alan White wrote: > >> I am proposing passing [cart] as part of my URL like so to get to various >> areas of the site, notice the change in length of URL which would be in >> reference to my previous post to do with cart numbers. > > A) The length of the URL is strictly a UI issue (i.e. completely up to you); Okay... > > B) How is this going to interact with search engines, which will store > these cart values as if they were real URL values? > > In particular, each time the spider hits your top page and is assigned a > new cart, it will appear that you have completely new content. This > could lead to overspidering (read DENIAL OF SERVICE) of your site. Well this was my major concern as I have heard of being excluded from SE's for multiple doorways etc and I figured this was similar thing > > If you don't have any conceptual problem with long URL's, why not just > pass the cart as a URL parameter (like the good old days): > > http://www.hanon-shop.com/products/brand/mens_silas_clothing/?cart=12313083450 > 42523532 I may do some tests with this, how are bots likely to deal with this? I know that my processing template will only read everything up to the ? in the URL so my pages will still parse the way they are supposed to using this method. It then becomes an issue of whether or now we will be crawled or not. > > or use exclusively form submissions to move from page to page and pass > the cart as a hidden form variable. This in no way prevents you from > using a single page to handle all of the processing (which is what you > are intending to do, right?). Again I would have to do some tests for this method... > > FWIW, we use cookies and hidden form variables to provide a cleaner and > simpler UI for most of our sites. Some search pages will display all of > the nasty URL nonsense, but we aren't that concerned about it. How do you combine the use of both just out of interest? I haven't really had that much experience using cookies etc so I'm afraid I am having difficulty justifying their use to my employers also... I would be happy to use them as it would certainly make my life easier ;-) > > YMMV > > John Thanks for your help.... Alan ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Alan White

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