Re: Annoying character on writefile...
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texte = I know, I was actually posting my response for the benefit of the person who claimed that writefile has a bug in it. Some people fail to understand the cause of webdna's behavior in certain situations, that's all ... :) >I never claimed otherwise! :D > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome"
>To: "WebDNA Talk" >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM >Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... > >>You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. >>Just because you don't see carriage return characters when creating >>a file on Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are not there! >> >>Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF >>combination. UNIX uses only LF's. >> >>So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in >>it) on a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so >>of course they will be written to the new file! Why would you >>expect anything else? >> >>It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human >>software ... :) >> >>Sincerely, >>Kenneth Grome >>www.kengrome.com >> >> >>>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does the >>>WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is used on >>>a UNIX server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being formatted >>>correctly. >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >>> >>>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or >>>>even to >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it >>>>gets there by >itself, not from being added. >>>> >>>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or >>>>always at the beginning? Or always at the end? >>>> >>>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your >>>>help. No one else has ever complained about this -- you're the >>>>first -- yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... >>>>and I don't think it is very likely that all the other webdna/osx >>>>users would have been able to ignore this issue if it were >>>>actually a bug. >>>> >>>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code like >>>>this: >>>> >>>>[writefile] >>>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>>[/writefile] >>>> >>>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, one >>>>at the beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper way >>>>to code a writefile context is like this: >>>> >>>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being >>>>written to your database files, but I fail to understand how this >>>>can happen either. Please post some of your code to show us how >>>>these characters are they being written to your database files, >>>>then maybe we can figure out what's really going on ... >>>> >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>www.kengrome.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, >>>>>and now Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>>> >>>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do is >>>>>>make sure it does not appear in your writefile context. WebDNA >>>>>>only writes what you tell it to write, it does not add stray >>>>>>characters on its own ... >>>>>> >>>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>>> >>>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping >>>>>>>the character out of there in the first place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following >>>>>>>>character during a writefile ? I am trying to write database >>>>>>>>information to an xml document to feed a flash app but it is >>>>>>>>bugging out with this character, I have also run into >>>>>>>>difficulties with it before when generating an html mail by >>>>>>>>write a file after the mail has been created. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>Alan >> >>-- >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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I know, I was actually posting my response for the benefit of the person who claimed that writefile has a bug in it. Some people fail to understand the cause of webdna's behavior in certain situations, that's all ... :) >I never claimed otherwise! :D > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >To: "WebDNA Talk" >Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:00 PM >Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... > >>You should expect this to happen, that's what it's supposed to do. >>Just because you don't see carriage return characters when creating >>a file on Windows or on Mac OS 9 does not mean they are not there! >> >>Mac OS 9 uses CR's as new line characters. Windows uses a CR-LF >>combination. UNIX uses only LF's. >> >>So when you put a Windows or Mac OS 9 file (with invisible CR's in >>it) on a server running UNIX, the CR's are still in the files, so >>of course they will be written to the new file! Why would you >>expect anything else? >> >>It's not a bug in the webdna software, it's a bug in the human >>software ... :) >> >>Sincerely, >>Kenneth Grome >>www.kengrome.com >> >> >>>Actually, we get it too. It is when we save the file that does the >>>WRITEFILE. If this file is created on a PC and the file is used on >>>a UNIX server. It has to do with the CR or LF not being formatted >>>correctly. >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Grome" >>>To: "WebDNA Talk" >>>Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:20 PM >>>Subject: Re: Annoying character on writefile... >>> >>>> >I get that character with nearly everything I write to file or >>>>even to >data base. I am not sure where it comes from, but it >>>>gets there by >itself, not from being added. >>>> >>>>Where does it appear in the file? In the middle somewhere? Or >>>>always at the beginning? Or always at the end? >>>> >>>>Sorry, I do not believe that webdna is doing ths without your >>>>help. No one else has ever complained about this -- you're the >>>>first -- yet WebDNA for OS X has been out for ages already ... >>>>and I don't think it is very likely that all the other webdna/osx >>>>users would have been able to ignore this issue if it were >>>>actually a bug. >>>> >>>>Of course I could be wrong about this, but I suspect your coding >>>>techniques far more than a possible bug. If you write code like >>>>this: >>>> >>>>[writefile] >>>>skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls >>>>[/writefile] >>>> >>>>... you're putting two of those characters in there yourself, one >>>>at the beginning and one at the end of the file. The proper way >>>>to code a writefile context is like this: >>>> >>>>[writefile]skg f,ksbdf blkvbsbgvbsdf vbsldfbls[/writefile] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>By the way, you also claim that these characters are being >>>>written to your database files, but I fail to understand how this >>>>can happen either. Please post some of your code to show us how >>>>these characters are they being written to your database files, >>>>then maybe we can figure out what's really going on ... >>>> >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>www.kengrome.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I never had the problem when I was on Mac OS 9, but under OS X, >>>>>and now Linux, I have it all the time. I suspect a connection. >>>>> >>>>>>If you don't want the character in there, all you have to do is >>>>>>make sure it does not appear in your writefile context. WebDNA >>>>>>only writes what you tell it to write, it does not add stray >>>>>>characters on its own ... >>>>>> >>>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>>Kenneth Grome >>>>>>www.kengrome.com >>>>>> >>>>>>>[grep search=[ ]&replace=][/grep] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Is what I do, but I would love to find an answer to keeping >>>>>>>the character out of there in the first place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Does anyone know hwo to get rid of or conver the following >>>>>>>>character during a writefile ? I am trying to write database >>>>>>>>information to an xml document to feed a flash app but it is >>>>>>>>bugging out with this character, I have also run into >>>>>>>>difficulties with it before when generating an html mail by >>>>>>>>write a file after the mail has been created. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Any suggestions are very welcome. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>Alan >> >>-- >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ -- Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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