Re: How about the Pascal approach?

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2004


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 60307
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texte = Actually that approach worked for SCO UNIX.  They gave UNIX and OpenServer away to all schools and it helped to solidify them as the one source for Unix on Intel.  They've been doing it for about 10 years and it was a good marketing move.

Matt Perosi
Psi Prime, Inc.

Kaiwi, Marc wrote:
How about marketing WebDNA as "The" language for teaching/learning the concepts for internet applications and web based database development? ... humm, I guess most schools wouldn't be able to afford it anyway ... oh well, never mind, just a silly thought. : c)-----Original Message-----From: Gary Krockover <gary@garykrockover.com>To: "WebDNA Talk" <WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:49:03 -0600Subject: Re: How long until WebDNA makes the list?  :(  
I think the language should be free and perhaps even open-sourced whilecanned solutions (such as store-builder, the features of the ISPedition, IDE Lab, etc) should be sold for profit by SMSI.  Unless SMSI becomes aMacromedia or a Microsoft*, this is the only way that WebDNA becomesmore than for a niche market, IMHO.* Becomes a larger, well known company by name recognition so thatWebDNA sells on reputation alone, ala Cold Fusion.  Again, IMHO.But that's easy for me to say obviously, it's the folks at SMSI thathave invested how much $ and time to develop and support the product.  Sure,they want a ROI.  At least if you open-sourced it, there would be nomore support costs for WebDNA (but for the developed solutions) and the developers at SMSI could concentrate on writing various packagedsolutions written in WebDNA instead of worrying about updates to the language itself.  Also, if open-sourced, the problem with running the canned solutions on WebDNA servers only becomes non-issue as everyone wouldhave access and the ability to get a WebDNA server up and running.One can dream at least.I too was bitten by the "we're going with PHP as a solution" just lastweek from a prospective client.GKAt 11:02 AM 12/6/2004, you wrote:    
I Think I suggested the same thing a few years ago.  The fact is that      
SMI     
puts a lot of man hours into development and they simply can't afford      
to     
give the language away for free.  I understand that entirely and I      
don't     
hold it against them.      
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  1.  Re: How about the Pascal approach? ( Matthew A Perosi  2004)
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  2.  How about the Pascal approach? ( "Kaiwi, Marc"  2004)
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    Actually that approach worked for SCO UNIX.  They gave UNIX andOpenServer away to all schools and it helped to solidify them as theone source for Unix on Intel.  They've been doing it for about 10 yearsand it was a good marketing move.

Matt Perosi
Psi Prime, Inc.

Kaiwi, Marc wrote:

  
How about marketing WebDNA as "The" language for teaching/learning the concepts for internet applications and web based database development? ... humm, I guess most schools wouldn't be able to afford it anyway ... oh well, never mind, just a silly thought. : c)-----Original Message-----From: Gary Krockover <gary@garykrockover.com>To: "WebDNA Talk" <WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com>Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:49:03 -0600Subject: Re: How long until WebDNA makes the list?  :(  
  
    
I think the language should be free and perhaps even open-sourced whilecanned solutions (such as store-builder, the features of the ISPedition, IDE Lab, etc) should be sold for profit by SMSI.  Unless SMSI becomes aMacromedia or a Microsoft*, this is the only way that WebDNA becomesmore than for a niche market, IMHO.* Becomes a larger, well known company by name recognition so thatWebDNA sells on reputation alone, ala Cold Fusion.  Again, IMHO.But that's easy for me to say obviously, it's the folks at SMSI thathave invested how much $ and time to develop and support the product.  Sure,they want a ROI.  At least if you open-sourced it, there would be nomore support costs for WebDNA (but for the developed solutions) and the developers at SMSI could concentrate on writing various packagedsolutions written in WebDNA instead of worrying about updates to the language itself.  Also, if open-sourced, the problem with running the canned solutions on WebDNA servers only becomes non-issue as everyone wouldhave access and the ability to get a WebDNA server up and running.One can dream at least.I too was bitten by the "we're going with PHP as a solution" just lastweek from a prospective client.GKAt 11:02 AM 12/6/2004, you wrote:    
    
      
I Think I suggested the same thing a few years ago.  The fact is that      
    
    
SMI     
    
      
puts a lot of man hours into development and they simply can't afford      
    
    
to     
    
      
give the language away for free.  I understand that entirely and I      
    
    
don't     
    
      
hold it against them.      
    
    
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