Re: DomainList

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2005


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 62939
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texte = Some clarification: Developer Edition has never supported more than a single domain. It is a necessary limitation to discourage using the free developer product to deploy any number of live sites. This is nothing new to 6.0 or any other version. Partner and Commerce Editions still support any number of domains. The option to buy these versions with limited domain support at a fraction of the price has existed for some time now. Also nothing "sneaked in" to 6. Doug -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:17 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: DomainList In other words, everything after the first dot has to match or else it =20 won't be served. This means all of these will be fine: www.webdna.net developers.webdna.net server.webdna.net phil.webdna.net ken.webdna.net stuart.webdna.net .... but only one of these will be acceptable (probably the first one =20 that gets a request, right?): www.developers.webdna.net www.server.webdna.net www.phil.webdna.net www.ken.webdna.net www.stuart.webdna.net So even though this last bunch all occur within the second level =20 "webdna.net" domain, webdna will serve only one of them unless we buy =20 additional 'website licenses'. I think I get it now. I don't like it but I get it. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com On Sep 8, 2005, at 05:57, Stuart Tremain wrote: > From the archives: > > http://search.smithmicro.com/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?=20 > = command=3Dsearch&db=3Dwebdna-talk.db&eqIDdata=3D38216&max=3D1&words=3Dsub= domain > > > "This adjustment to > the licensing mechanism will mean that the 'unique' website/hostname =20 > would > be the entire domain name that succeeds the first '.' in the complete > hostname string, which would be counted as a single 'instance' for =20 > licensing > purposes. This would then permit an arbitrary number of 'prefixes' that > appear prior to the first '.'. In this scenario the following would be > counted as a single 'website' instance:www.mystore.us.com > beta.mystore.us.com > secure.mystore.us.com > monitor.mystore.us.com > The key value that is identified as unique is 'mystore.us.com', which > would > count as a single 'website' instance for licensing purposes. This > adjustment to the licensing model will allow the flexibility to create > sub-domains that are common with the deployment of a single website =20 > through > the use of prefixes, provide a secure licensing model necessary to =20 > permit us > to enable a lower price point, and can be implemented without imposing > a > general performance penalty upon the WebDNA engine. > Phil Bonesteele > Director e-business Products & Services > Smith Micro Software" > > > > > > > Stuart Tremain > idfk web developments, sydney, australia > > > On 08 Sep 2005, at 7:46 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Are you suggesting that if I own the domain "webdna.net" and I want =20 >> to create a bunch of subdomains such as: >> >> palle.webdna.net >> ken.webdna.net >> stuart.webdna.net >> bob.webdna.net >> donovan.webdna.net >> >> ... that I can only serve pages to ONE of these domains? >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2005, at 03:11, Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) wrote: >> >> >>> The new version 6.x version is limited to one (read: 1) domain, even >>> on the sub-domain area. You need to buy domain-licenses from SM to =20 >>> get more than 1 domain and sub-domain to work... >>> >>> A scary new feature in version 6.x which was sneaked in ;) >>> >>> Palle >>> >>> >>> On 07/09/2005, at 19.53, Bess Ho wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No. I don't think it is related to edition. It is more like a =20 >>>> server setting. We have to setup the IIS server definition to =20 >>>> accept both with and without "www" if you are dealing with =20 >>>> subdomain. I don't know how about Apache setting. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf >>>> Of >>>> Clint Davis >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:50 AM >>>> To: WebDNA Talk >>>> Subject: Re: DomainList >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you using the Developer edition for this setup? >>>> >>>> Apache is already setup to accept both subdomains. I added the www >>>> because >>>> most people automatically assume it has to be there. We have =20 >>>> several clients >>>> that can't understand why there's no www in the address of our =20 >>>> staging >>>> server. It baffles them :( >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/7/05 12:44 PM, "Bess Ho" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> We are using WebDNA to host the subdomain name like xyz.usa.com as >>>>> a main >>>>> domain. You need to setup IIS website properties to acccept =20 >>>>> xyz.usa.com and >>>>> www.xyz.usa.com. Normally you don't need to type the "www" for =20 >>>>> subdomain on >>>>> URL. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On =20 >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Clint Davis >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:07 AM >>>>> To: WebDNA Talk >>>>> Subject: DomainList >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On my staging server running WebDNA 6.0 Developer edition, I have >>>>> one domain >>>>> setup: grayloon.com >>>>> >>>>> I'm serving the domain clients.grayloon.com from this server. I =20 >>>>> have my DNS >>>>> setup so that www.clients.grayloon.com also points to this box, =20 >>>>> but WebDNA >>>>> says: "WebDNA is not configured to accept requests to host: >>>>> www.clients.grayloon.com" >>>>> >>>>> What gives? Are you only allowed one level of subdomain? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  2. Re: DomainList ( "Doug Deck" 2005)
  3. Re: DomainList ( Brian Fries 2005)
  4. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  5. Re: DomainList ( "Doug Deck" 2005)
  6. Re: DomainList ( "Doug Deck" 2005)
  7. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  8. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  9. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  10. Re: DomainList ( Palle Bo Nielsen 2005)
  11. Re: DomainList ( Clint Davis 2005)
  12. Re: DomainList ( "Doug Deck" 2005)
  13. Re: DomainList ( Clint Davis 2005)
  14. Re: DomainList ( "Doug Deck" 2005)
  15. Re: DomainList ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  16. Re: DomainList ( Stuart Tremain 2005)
  17. Re: DomainList ( Kenneth Grome 2005)
  18. Re: DomainList ( Donovan Brooke 2005)
  19. Re: DomainList ( "Bess Ho" 2005)
  20. Re: DomainList ( "Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle)" 2005)
  21. Re: DomainList ( "Bess Ho" 2005)
  22. Re: DomainList ( Clint Davis 2005)
  23. Re: DomainList ( "Bess Ho" 2005)
  24. DomainList ( Clint Davis 2005)
Some clarification: Developer Edition has never supported more than a single domain. It is a necessary limitation to discourage using the free developer product to deploy any number of live sites. This is nothing new to 6.0 or any other version. Partner and Commerce Editions still support any number of domains. The option to buy these versions with limited domain support at a fraction of the price has existed for some time now. Also nothing "sneaked in" to 6. Doug -----Original Message----- From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Grome Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:17 PM To: WebDNA Talk Subject: Re: DomainList In other words, everything after the first dot has to match or else it =20 won't be served. This means all of these will be fine: www.webdna.net developers.webdna.net server.webdna.net phil.webdna.net ken.webdna.net stuart.webdna.net .... but only one of these will be acceptable (probably the first one =20 that gets a request, right?): www.developers.webdna.net www.server.webdna.net www.phil.webdna.net www.ken.webdna.net www.stuart.webdna.net So even though this last bunch all occur within the second level =20 "webdna.net" domain, webdna will serve only one of them unless we buy =20 additional 'website licenses'. I think I get it now. I don't like it but I get it. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome www.kengrome.com On Sep 8, 2005, at 05:57, Stuart Tremain wrote: > From the archives: > > http://search.smithmicro.com/TalkListArchive/DetailResults.tpl?=20 > = command=3Dsearch&db=3Dwebdna-talk.db&eqIDdata=3D38216&max=3D1&words=3Dsub= domain > > > "This adjustment to > the licensing mechanism will mean that the 'unique' website/hostname =20 > would > be the entire domain name that succeeds the first '.' in the complete > hostname string, which would be counted as a single 'instance' for =20 > licensing > purposes. This would then permit an arbitrary number of 'prefixes' that > appear prior to the first '.'. In this scenario the following would be > counted as a single 'website' instance:www.mystore.us.com > beta.mystore.us.com > secure.mystore.us.com > monitor.mystore.us.com > The key value that is identified as unique is 'mystore.us.com', which > would > count as a single 'website' instance for licensing purposes. This > adjustment to the licensing model will allow the flexibility to create > sub-domains that are common with the deployment of a single website =20 > through > the use of prefixes, provide a secure licensing model necessary to =20 > permit us > to enable a lower price point, and can be implemented without imposing > a > general performance penalty upon the WebDNA engine. > Phil Bonesteele > Director e-business Products & Services > Smith Micro Software" > > > > > > > Stuart Tremain > idfk web developments, sydney, australia > > > On 08 Sep 2005, at 7:46 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Are you suggesting that if I own the domain "webdna.net" and I want =20 >> to create a bunch of subdomains such as: >> >> palle.webdna.net >> ken.webdna.net >> stuart.webdna.net >> bob.webdna.net >> donovan.webdna.net >> >> ... that I can only serve pages to ONE of these domains? >> >> Sincerely, >> Kenneth Grome >> www.kengrome.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2005, at 03:11, Palle B. Nielsen (PowerPalle) wrote: >> >> >>> The new version 6.x version is limited to one (read: 1) domain, even >>> on the sub-domain area. You need to buy domain-licenses from SM to =20 >>> get more than 1 domain and sub-domain to work... >>> >>> A scary new feature in version 6.x which was sneaked in ;) >>> >>> Palle >>> >>> >>> On 07/09/2005, at 19.53, Bess Ho wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No. I don't think it is related to edition. It is more like a =20 >>>> server setting. We have to setup the IIS server definition to =20 >>>> accept both with and without "www" if you are dealing with =20 >>>> subdomain. I don't know how about Apache setting. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf >>>> Of >>>> Clint Davis >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 10:50 AM >>>> To: WebDNA Talk >>>> Subject: Re: DomainList >>>> >>>> >>>> Are you using the Developer edition for this setup? >>>> >>>> Apache is already setup to accept both subdomains. I added the www >>>> because >>>> most people automatically assume it has to be there. We have =20 >>>> several clients >>>> that can't understand why there's no www in the address of our =20 >>>> staging >>>> server. It baffles them :( >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/7/05 12:44 PM, "Bess Ho" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> We are using WebDNA to host the subdomain name like xyz.usa.com as >>>>> a main >>>>> domain. You need to setup IIS website properties to acccept =20 >>>>> xyz.usa.com and >>>>> www.xyz.usa.com. Normally you don't need to type the "www" for =20 >>>>> subdomain on >>>>> URL. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On =20 >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Clint Davis >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 7:07 AM >>>>> To: WebDNA Talk >>>>> Subject: DomainList >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On my staging server running WebDNA 6.0 Developer edition, I have >>>>> one domain >>>>> setup: grayloon.com >>>>> >>>>> I'm serving the domain clients.grayloon.com from this server. I =20 >>>>> have my DNS >>>>> setup so that www.clients.grayloon.com also points to this box, =20 >>>>> but WebDNA >>>>> says: "WebDNA is not configured to accept requests to host: >>>>> www.clients.grayloon.com" >>>>> >>>>> What gives? Are you only allowed one level of subdomain? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>>> >>>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >>> >>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 >> >> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to =20 > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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