Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer

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2007

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texte = I have a couple of larger scale sites running entirely on WebDNA. I agree that it's more efficient to focus on a single language, but I do a great deal of Flash to WebDNA cross-chatter stuff. Flash is great on the client end.I guess WebDNA with no company support is still better than PHP/MySQL with lots of support. It's still much quicker to get things built and built well in WebDNA.One line I use to pitch WebDNA is the security inherent in a lesser known product. I use PHP/MySQL and a canned forum and suggest to customers that it provides a distraction for hackers who won't likely know that all the critical stuff is in WebDNA.Another tip is to present yourself not as a web application developer, but as a web application prototype developer. I tell clients that I use a lesser known language that's much faster. I'll build a working sample which will help them better understand the 'final' product. Before they embark on the more expensive, time- consuming and "official" PHP/MySql site, why not work out all of the interface and functional details in a quick, prototype setting with WebDNA.You might have guessed, all my customers eventually discover that switching to PHP/MySQL is expensive and pointless.On Mar 1, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Matthew A Perosi wrote:> We would never have evolved to this level without a lot of blood, > sweat and tears. It was a long difficult road to prove WebDNA to > our customers. But we actually have 147 site running WebDNA, 178 > under contract around the world. 36 of them are using a CMS that > we developed and pretty much sell as a packaged system.>> My problem now is keeping all those packaged sites up to date with > the latest versions of our CMS. That task alone is practically > killing us. Right now, this very moment, I have run away from my > office and am hiding out while trying to create a Revision Control > System that will keep all those sites up to date.>> The trick is that I have 5 WebDNA servers running and am trying to > invent a distribution system that will control track CRC values of > files in an effort to manage an official Version Number for our > system. 24 hours now and I'm not even close to a solution. I have > until Saturday night! ACK!!>> Matt Perosi> Psi Prime, Inc.>> Donovan Brooke wrote:>>> Matthew A Perosi wrote:>>>>> Happy to say that we program exclusively in WebDNA. Although >>> sometimes SMI makes us panic that we have all our eggs in one >>> basket.>>>>>> I feel concentrating on one language allows us to hone our skills >>> and create some seriously powerful websites for customers without >>> confusing the staff in diverse languages.>>>>>> Of course we also use JavaScripts. But even when customers ask >>> us to use PHP, MySQL or ASP we request they find another >>> development company. We have too too much work on our plate >>> right now with more than 175 websites in various stages of >>> development! One of these days I need to hire another in-house >>> WebDNA programmer.>>>>>> I'm very happy to have discovered WebDNA 10 years ago, and I >>> don't regret using it at all.>>>>>> Matt Perosi>>> Psi Prime, Inc.>>>>>>>> I agree with your sentiments Matt. Its not the language that makes>> great sites, its how well and how creatively you speak it...>>>> and yes, Javascript (the most compatible client-side language) is >> almost>> a must with WebDNA (or most any other server-side language).>>>> I'd challenge a WebDNA/Javascript/CSS site against any other combo >> out>> there (for 98% of the jobs) and not worry out one drop of sweat. :-)>>>> I'm still optimistic that SMSI hasn't vaulted the language.>>>> Donovan>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( John Peacock 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Pat McCormick 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Pat McCormick 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Stuart Tremain 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Dean Smith 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( John Peacock 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Pat McCormick 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Jesse Proudman 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Matthew A Perosi 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Matthew A Perosi 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( "Gary Krockover" 2007)
Re: Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Donovan Brooke 2007)
Needed, Freelance Web Developer ( Robert Kudrle 2007)

I have a couple of larger scale sites running entirely on WebDNA. I agree that it's more efficient to focus on a single language, but I do a great deal of Flash to WebDNA cross-chatter stuff. Flash is great on the client end.I guess WebDNA with no company support is still better than PHP/MySQL with lots of support. It's still much quicker to get things built and built well in WebDNA.One line I use to pitch WebDNA is the security inherent in a lesser known product. I use PHP/MySQL and a canned forum and suggest to customers that it provides a distraction for hackers who won't likely know that all the critical stuff is in WebDNA.Another tip is to present yourself not as a web application developer, but as a web application prototype developer. I tell clients that I use a lesser known language that's much faster. I'll build a working sample which will help them better understand the 'final' product. Before they embark on the more expensive, time- consuming and "official" PHP/MySql site, why not work out all of the interface and functional details in a quick, prototype setting with WebDNA.You might have guessed, all my customers eventually discover that switching to PHP/MySQL is expensive and pointless.On Mar 1, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Matthew A Perosi wrote:> We would never have evolved to this level without a lot of blood, > sweat and tears. It was a long difficult road to prove WebDNA to > our customers. But we actually have 147 site running WebDNA, 178 > under contract around the world. 36 of them are using a CMS that > we developed and pretty much sell as a packaged system.>> My problem now is keeping all those packaged sites up to date with > the latest versions of our CMS. That task alone is practically > killing us. Right now, this very moment, I have run away from my > office and am hiding out while trying to create a Revision Control > System that will keep all those sites up to date.>> The trick is that I have 5 WebDNA servers running and am trying to > invent a distribution system that will control track CRC values of > files in an effort to manage an official Version Number for our > system. 24 hours now and I'm not even close to a solution. I have > until Saturday night! ACK!!>> Matt Perosi> Psi Prime, Inc.>> Donovan Brooke wrote:>>> Matthew A Perosi wrote:>>>>> Happy to say that we program exclusively in WebDNA. Although >>> sometimes SMI makes us panic that we have all our eggs in one >>> basket.>>>>>> I feel concentrating on one language allows us to hone our skills >>> and create some seriously powerful websites for customers without >>> confusing the staff in diverse languages.>>>>>> Of course we also use JavaScripts. But even when customers ask >>> us to use PHP, MySQL or ASP we request they find another >>> development company. We have too too much work on our plate >>> right now with more than 175 websites in various stages of >>> development! One of these days I need to hire another in-house >>> WebDNA programmer.>>>>>> I'm very happy to have discovered WebDNA 10 years ago, and I >>> don't regret using it at all.>>>>>> Matt Perosi>>> Psi Prime, Inc.>>>>>>>> I agree with your sentiments Matt. Its not the language that makes>> great sites, its how well and how creatively you speak it...>>>> and yes, Javascript (the most compatible client-side language) is >> almost>> a must with WebDNA (or most any other server-side language).>>>> I'd challenge a WebDNA/Javascript/CSS site against any other combo >> out>> there (for 98% of the jobs) and not worry out one drop of sweat. :-)>>>> I'm still optimistic that SMSI hasn't vaulted the language.>>>> Donovan>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com>> Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Pat McCormick

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