Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ?

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2008


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 100889
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail-46-948502262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First look, i would say the syntax is not very elegant and probably confusing: i wonder how to clearly embed instructions one inside the other with this <<>> stuff. Also, being a .cgi and not a fastcgi build, the engine is started each time the web server receives a request, which takes time. Finally, it seems databases are not RAM-based ("no additional RAM needed") The concept of using a drop into /cgi-bin version is a good one; we work on this, without the drawback of the speed problem. Here a password page in H2O, the kind of thing we do with [PROTECT]: ------------------- << loginfile="users.txt" welcomepage="menu.html" >> Mulit-Staff Login << IF errmessage <> "ERROR" DO DISPLAY '' + errmessage + '

' /DISPLAY errmessage = "ERROR" /IF >>

Name:
Password:
<> ------------------- On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:14, Terry Wilson wrote: > Just googled it and spent some time at the aestiva.com website. I'm > wondering why this is first I've ever heard of this product, and it > has never come up on this list. Has anybody tried it? Did you, Ken? > > Terry > >> Obviously there are substantial differences in the >> architecture of these software products, but ... >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion -- based on personal >> experience -- about how WebDNA compares with HTML/OS or its >> free sibling H20? >> >> Sincerely, >> Ken Grome >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > -- > Terry Wilson | terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com > http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, affordable online reservation > system > http://TightJacket.com -- stylish protection for your laptop > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure. > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --Apple-Mail-46-948502262 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First look, i would say the = syntax is not very elegant and probably confusing: i wonder how to = clearly embed instructions one inside the other with this <<>> = stuff.
Also, being a .cgi and not a fastcgi build, the engine is = started each time the web server receives a request, which takes time. = Finally, it seems databases are not RAM-based ("no additional RAM = needed")

The concept of using a drop into = /cgi-bin version is a good one; we work on this, without the drawback of = the speed problem.

Here a password page in H2O, = the kind of thing we do = with [PROTECT]:

-------------------
<<
   loginfile=3D"users.txt"
   =welcomepage=3D"menu.html"
>>

<html>
<title>Mulit-Staff =Login</title>
<<
  IF errmessage <> "ERROR" DO
    =DISPLAY '<font color=3Dred><b>' + errmessage + 
            ='</b></font><br><br>' 
    /DISPLAY
    errmessage =3D ="ERROR"
  /IF

>>
<form method=3Dpost =action=3Dcheckpassword><br>
Name: 
<input type=3Dtext =size=3D30 name=3Dmulticheckname><br>
Password: 
<input =type=3Dpassword size=3D30 name=3Dmulticheckpassword>
<input =type=3Dsubmit =value=3D"Enter">
</form>
</html>

<<OVERLAY =checkpassword
    # load login,password pairs from file /#
    IF =multicheckname=3D"" THEN
      errmessage =3D "Bad Login." 
      =GOTO PAGE
    /IF
    COPY FILE=3Dloginfile TS=3D"," TO =checkpassword /COPY
    checkpassword =3D =GETCOLEQ(checkpassword,1,multicheckname)
    IF checkpassword =3D "" =THEN
      errmessage =3D "Bad Login."
      GOTO PAGE
    =/IF
    IF multicheckpassword !=3D checkpassword[2,1] THEN
      =errmessage =3D "Bad Login."
      GOTO PAGE
    /IF
    =accesslevel =3D checkpassword[3,1]
    GOTO welcomepage
  =>>
-------------------

=
On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:14, Terry Wilson = wrote:

Just googled it and spent some time at the = aestiva.com website. I'm wondering why this is first I've ever heard of = this product, and it has never come up on this list. Has anybody tried = it? Did you, Ken?

Terry

Obviously = there are substantial differences in the
architecture of these software products, but = ...

I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion -- based on = personal
experience -- about = how WebDNA compares with HTML/OS or its
free sibling H20?

Sincerely,
Ken = Grome






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----------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
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= --Apple-Mail-46-948502262-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Govinda 2008)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Paul Willis 2008)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Bob Minor 2008)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Donovan Brooke 2008)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Patrick McCormick 2008)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? ("Dan Strong" 2008)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Chris 2008)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (William DeVaul 2008)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Terry Wilson 2008)
  15. RE: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? ("Marc Thompson" 2008)
  16. RE: [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? ("Marc Thompson" 2008)
  17. [WebDNA] HTML/OS vs. WebDNA ? (Kenneth Grome 2008)
--Apple-Mail-46-948502262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First look, i would say the syntax is not very elegant and probably confusing: i wonder how to clearly embed instructions one inside the other with this <<>> stuff. Also, being a .cgi and not a fastcgi build, the engine is started each time the web server receives a request, which takes time. Finally, it seems databases are not RAM-based ("no additional RAM needed") The concept of using a drop into /cgi-bin version is a good one; we work on this, without the drawback of the speed problem. Here a password page in H2O, the kind of thing we do with [protect]: ------------------- << loginfile="users.txt" welcomepage="menu.html" >> Mulit-Staff Login << IF errmessage <> "ERROR" DO DISPLAY '' + errmessage + '

' /DISPLAY errmessage = "ERROR" /IF >>

Name:
Password:
<> ------------------- On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:14, Terry Wilson wrote: > Just googled it and spent some time at the aestiva.com website. I'm > wondering why this is first I've ever heard of this product, and it > has never come up on this list. Has anybody tried it? Did you, Ken? > > Terry > >> Obviously there are substantial differences in the >> architecture of these software products, but ... >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion -- based on personal >> experience -- about how WebDNA compares with HTML/OS or its >> free sibling H20? >> >> Sincerely, >> Ken Grome >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > > -- > Terry Wilson | terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com > http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, affordable online reservation > system > http://TightJacket.com -- stylish protection for your laptop > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure. > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ --Apple-Mail-46-948502262 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First look, i would say the = syntax is not very elegant and probably confusing: i wonder how to = clearly embed instructions one inside the other with this <<>> = stuff.
Also, being a .cgi and not a fastcgi build, the engine is = started each time the web server receives a request, which takes time. = Finally, it seems databases are not RAM-based ("no additional RAM = needed")

The concept of using a drop into = /cgi-bin version is a good one; we work on this, without the drawback of = the speed problem.

Here a password page in H2O, = the kind of thing we do = with [protect]:

-------------------
<<
   loginfile=3D"users.txt"
   =welcomepage=3D"menu.html"
>>

<html>
<title>Mulit-Staff =Login</title>
<<
  IF errmessage <> "ERROR" DO
    =DISPLAY '<font color=3Dred><b>' + errmessage + 
            ='</b></font><br><br>' 
    /DISPLAY
    errmessage =3D ="ERROR"
  /IF

>>
<form method=3Dpost =action=3Dcheckpassword><br>
Name: 
<input type=3Dtext =size=3D30 name=3Dmulticheckname><br>
Password: 
<input =type=3Dpassword size=3D30 name=3Dmulticheckpassword>
<input =type=3Dsubmit =value=3D"Enter">
</form>
</html>

<<OVERLAY =checkpassword
    # load login,password pairs from file /#
    IF =multicheckname=3D"" THEN
      errmessage =3D "Bad Login." 
      =GOTO PAGE
    /IF
    COPY FILE=3Dloginfile TS=3D"," TO =checkpassword /COPY
    checkpassword =3D =GETCOLEQ(checkpassword,1,multicheckname)
    IF checkpassword =3D "" =THEN
      errmessage =3D "Bad Login."
      GOTO PAGE
    =/IF
    IF multicheckpassword !=3D checkpassword[2,1] THEN
      =errmessage =3D "Bad Login."
      GOTO PAGE
    /IF
    =accesslevel =3D checkpassword[3,1]
    GOTO welcomepage
  =>>
-------------------

=
On Sep 20, 2008, at 10:14, Terry Wilson = wrote:

Just googled it and spent some time at the = aestiva.com website. I'm wondering why this is first I've ever heard of = this product, and it has never come up on this list. Has anybody tried = it? Did you, Ken?

Terry

Obviously = there are substantial differences in the
architecture of these software products, but = ...

I'm wondering if anyone has an opinion -- based on = personal
experience -- about = how WebDNA compares with HTML/OS or its
free sibling H20?

Sincerely,
Ken = Grome






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--
Terry Wilson | = terry@terryfic.com | http://terryfic.com
http://WhosComing.com - a simplified, = affordable online reservation system
http://TightJacket.com -- stylish = protection for your = laptop
----------------------------------------------------------------= ----------
Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and = adventure.
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