Re: [WebDNA] OT: what is the "right" platform ?
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texte = I agree with this assessment, the advantages that an xserve bring are in = the amount of memory, drives, and hardware monitoring that goes into = them. If you need those features and plenty of folks do then the xserve = is a great way to go. We don't use iTools, but we can see its value for = some folks. I am fairly proficient with the command line and can deal = with most config issues that way. we also use the gui and with each = iteration the gui gets better. I wouldn't trust commerce level sites to = a mac mini unless I was sure of its backups, the xserve gives you that. = We have a lot of people get their feet wet with the mac mini running = snow leopard and snow leopard server, when they outgrow their hardware = they move up to an xserve and they usually know well in advance that its = time for the move. Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications =20 http://www.cybermill.com=20 Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. Complete ddos proofting solutions and network services. On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Patrick McCormick wrote: > It might be worth considering an ordinary SL machine (not the server) = and installing something like webmin to help manage apache, bind, and = whatever other services you want the machine to run. >=20 > If you don't have to manage lots of different sites and domains, this = works out well. You end up with lots of minis, each one handling only a = few domains. If you plan to load up each machine, you might prefer a = box that can handle more drives as the load grows. >=20 > I like how simple managing an ordinary SL machine is. It's already = familiar to me and I can really control what I don't want running for = security sake. >=20 > I don't think there's any performance difference between SL Server and = regular SL. They both use Apache, Bind, etc. SL Server provides more = management tools and file sharing features, but for web hosting, there's = not that much difference. >=20 > Pat >=20 > On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Thierry Almy wrote: >=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> We're about to set up a new webserver and think about what system to = use ... it has to run on OS X, with Apache and WebDNA plus a few tools = like ImageMagick. >>=20 >> We're using iTools for years now. I like the product, the support is = ok (while the mailing list is poor), it runs quite stable but can be = tricky in case of problems / upgrades ... but anyhow, we know in urgent = cases we've got a helping hand at Tenon.=20 >>=20 >> But ... why not using SnowLeo Server and manage Apache with the = ServerAdmin in there? >>=20 >> What are the benefits of OS X Server as an Apache server? >> Is it more difficult to update future releases of Apache? >>=20 >> What are you guys using? >>=20 >> Thierry >>=20 >> ______________________ >> mac&web gmbh >> thierry almy >> grabenstrasse 15 >> 8200 schaffhausen >> switzerland >> tel +41 (0)52 620 30 60 >> fax +41 (0)52 620 30 61 >> mail almy@mac-web.ch >> web www.mac-web.ch >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list
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I agree with this assessment, the advantages that an xserve bring are in = the amount of memory, drives, and hardware monitoring that goes into = them. If you need those features and plenty of folks do then the xserve = is a great way to go. We don't use iTools, but we can see its value for = some folks. I am fairly proficient with the command line and can deal = with most config issues that way. we also use the gui and with each = iteration the gui gets better. I wouldn't trust commerce level sites to = a mac mini unless I was sure of its backups, the xserve gives you that. = We have a lot of people get their feet wet with the mac mini running = snow leopard and snow leopard server, when they outgrow their hardware = they move up to an xserve and they usually know well in advance that its = time for the move. Robert Minor Director of Internet Services ------------------------------------------------------------ Cybermill Communications =20 http://www.cybermill.com=20 Providing Ecommerce and interactive website development and hosting services on Macintosh, Windows NT, *nix, and AS/400. Complete ddos proofting solutions and network services. On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Patrick McCormick wrote: > It might be worth considering an ordinary SL machine (not the server) = and installing something like webmin to help manage apache, bind, and = whatever other services you want the machine to run. >=20 > If you don't have to manage lots of different sites and domains, this = works out well. You end up with lots of minis, each one handling only a = few domains. If you plan to load up each machine, you might prefer a = box that can handle more drives as the load grows. >=20 > I like how simple managing an ordinary SL machine is. It's already = familiar to me and I can really control what I don't want running for = security sake. >=20 > I don't think there's any performance difference between SL Server and = regular SL. They both use Apache, Bind, etc. SL Server provides more = management tools and file sharing features, but for web hosting, there's = not that much difference. >=20 > Pat >=20 > On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Thierry Almy wrote: >=20 >> Hi >>=20 >> We're about to set up a new webserver and think about what system to = use ... it has to run on OS X, with Apache and WebDNA plus a few tools = like ImageMagick. >>=20 >> We're using iTools for years now. I like the product, the support is = ok (while the mailing list is poor), it runs quite stable but can be = tricky in case of problems / upgrades ... but anyhow, we know in urgent = cases we've got a helping hand at Tenon.=20 >>=20 >> But ... why not using SnowLeo Server and manage Apache with the = ServerAdmin in there? >>=20 >> What are the benefits of OS X Server as an Apache server? >> Is it more difficult to update future releases of Apache? >>=20 >> What are you guys using? >>=20 >> Thierry >>=20 >> ______________________ >> mac&web gmbh >> thierry almy >> grabenstrasse 15 >> 8200 schaffhausen >> switzerland >> tel +41 (0)52 620 30 60 >> fax +41 (0)52 620 30 61 >> mail almy@mac-web.ch >> web www.mac-web.ch >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> Bug Reporting: = http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ > Bug Reporting: = http://forum.webdna.us/eucabb.html?page=3Dtopics&category=3D288
Bob Minor
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