Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2010


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 105291
interpreted = N
texte = --Apple-Mail-13--755046902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have had these problems for years ...... I had people receiving upto 60 copies of the same email but all logs = showed it was only sent once. I believe it is something in the WebDNA engine that may have been taken = from a third party SMTP engine by the previous developers. The problem was hi-lighted by an associate who was experienced some time = ago the very same problem with some older SMTP technology which for the = file of me I can not remember exactly what it was - may have been = squirrel mail. Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 09/06/2010, at 7:17 AM, Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound & Light = wrote: > Hi Tom, >=20 > Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I would greatly appreciate seeing the = code. I may have to do this for all emails our site sends out. Even a = simple form when someone subscribes to or removes their email address = from our mailing list the WebDNA [sendmail] is still on occasion sending = the confirmation email more than once even with the ticks in the Email = Preferences set all the way down to 1. Again, we didn't have this = problem with our old server that was running at 1.6MHz. It didn't start = happening until the new faster server was put into service.=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Steve >=20 > Tom Duke wrote: >>=20 >> Steve, >>=20 >> Hi - you could try sending the email directly, i.e. bypass WebDNA. =C2 = I write all the emails out into a folder, list through the files and = then use [shell] to send the emails out. =C2 I find this is much faster = than WebDNA - about 10 mins to send 10k emails. >>=20 >> This also lets me specify the return-path so I can configure = auto-bounce management. =C2 The shell command I use is within the = [listfiles] is as follows: >>=20 >>=20 >> [shell]/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f bounce-client-[getchars = start=3D1&end=3D8][filename][/getchars]-[getchars = start=3D9][filename][/getchars]@revolutionaries.ie < = campaigns/[_RID]/[filename][/shell] >>=20 >>=20 >> The folder name is passed as [_rid]. =C2 The bounces then go to a = catch-all POP account. =C2 I have a WebDNA script which checks this POP = account and processes all emails with 'bounce' in the address. =C2 I can = share this code (still a bit rough) if you like. >>=20 >> Take care >> - Tom >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Steve Raslevich > President/CEO > Northern Sound & Light, Inc. > 11 Shingiss Street > McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 15136 >=20 > Phone: (412) 331-1000 > Fax: (412) 331-1035 >=20 > http://www.northernsound.net >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------- > This Email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential, = non-public information intended=20 > solely for the use of the individual to whom or the entity to which = they are addressed. Unauthorized=20 > use, reproduction, distribution or communication of this message or = any information contained or=20 > attached to this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.=20= >=20 > If you have received this email in error please notify the sender = immediately by e-mail or contact=20 > Northern Sound & Light at frontdesk@northernsound.net or (412) = 331-1000. > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------- --Apple-Mail-13--755046902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I = have had these problems for years ......

I had people = receiving upto 60 copies of the same email but all logs showed it was = only sent once.

I believe it is something in the = WebDNA engine that may have been taken from a third party SMTP engine by = the previous developers.

The problem was = hi-lighted by an associate who was experienced some time ago the very = same problem with some older SMTP technology which for the file of me I = can not remember exactly what it was - may have been squirrel = mail.

Regards

Stuart = Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA




On 09/06/2010, at 7:17 AM, Steve Raslevich - Northern = Sound & Light wrote:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I would greatly appreciate seeing the code.  I may have to do this for all emails our site sends out. = Even a simple form when someone subscribes to or removes their email address from our mailing list the WebDNA [sendmail] is still on occasion sending the confirmation email more than once even with the ticks in the Email Preferences set all the way down to 1. Again, we didn't have this problem with our old server that was running at 1.6MHz. It didn't start happening until the new faster server was put into service.

Thanks,
Steve

Tom Duke wrote:
Steve,

Hi - you could try sending the email directly, i.e. bypass WebDNA. =C2  I write all the emails out into a folder, list through = the files and then use [shell] to send the emails out. =C2 I find this = is much faster than WebDNA - about 10 mins to send 10k emails.

This also lets me specify the return-path so I can configure auto-bounce management. =C2 The shell command I use is within the [listfiles] is as follows:


[shell]/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f bounce-client-[getchars start=3D1&end=3D8][filename][/getchars]-[getchars start=3D9][filename][/getchars]@revolutionaries.ie < campaigns/[_RID]/[filename][/shell]


The folder name is passed as [_rid]. =C2 The bounces then go = to a catch-all POP account. =C2 I have a WebDNA script which checks this = POP account and processes all emails with 'bounce' in the address. =C2 I = can share this code (still a bit rough) if you like.

Take care
- Tom


--=20Steve RaslevichPresident/CEONorthern Sound & Light, Inc.11 Shingiss StreetMcKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 15136Phone: (412) 331-1000Fax: (412) 331-1035http://www.northernsound.net=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-------------------------------------------------------------This Email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential, =non-public information intended=20solely for the use of the individual to whom or the entity to which they =are addressed. Unauthorized=20use, reproduction, distribution or communication of this message or any =information contained or=20attached to this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.=20If you have received this email in error please notify the sender =immediately by e-mail or contact=20Northern Sound & Light at frontdesk@northernsound.net or (412) 331-1000.=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-------------------------------------------------------------

= --Apple-Mail-13--755046902-- Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound 2010)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Tom Duke 2010)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Stuart Tremain 2010)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound 2010)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Tom Duke 2010)
  7. [WebDNA] [sendmail] random duplicates (Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound 2010)
--Apple-Mail-13--755046902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I have had these problems for years ...... I had people receiving upto 60 copies of the same email but all logs = showed it was only sent once. I believe it is something in the WebDNA engine that may have been taken = from a third party SMTP engine by the previous developers. The problem was hi-lighted by an associate who was experienced some time = ago the very same problem with some older SMTP technology which for the = file of me I can not remember exactly what it was - may have been = squirrel mail. Regards Stuart Tremain IDFK Web Developments AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au On 09/06/2010, at 7:17 AM, Steve Raslevich - Northern Sound & Light = wrote: > Hi Tom, >=20 > Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I would greatly appreciate seeing the = code. I may have to do this for all emails our site sends out. Even a = simple form when someone subscribes to or removes their email address = from our mailing list the WebDNA
[sendmail] is still on occasion sending = the confirmation email more than once even with the ticks in the Email = Preferences set all the way down to 1. Again, we didn't have this = problem with our old server that was running at 1.6MHz. It didn't start = happening until the new faster server was put into service.=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Steve >=20 > Tom Duke wrote: >>=20 >> Steve, >>=20 >> Hi - you could try sending the email directly, i.e. bypass WebDNA. =C2 = I write all the emails out into a folder, list through the files and = then use [shell] to send the emails out. =C2 I find this is much faster = than WebDNA - about 10 mins to send 10k emails. >>=20 >> This also lets me specify the return-path so I can configure = auto-bounce management. =C2 The shell command I use is within the = [listfiles] is as follows: >>=20 >>=20 >> [shell]/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f bounce-client-[getchars = start=3D1&end=3D8][filename][/getchars]-[getchars = start=3D9][filename][/getchars]@revolutionaries.ie < = campaigns/[_RID]/[filename][/shell] >>=20 >>=20 >> The folder name is passed as [_rid]. =C2 The bounces then go to a = catch-all POP account. =C2 I have a WebDNA script which checks this POP = account and processes all emails with 'bounce' in the address. =C2 I can = share this code (still a bit rough) if you like. >>=20 >> Take care >> - Tom >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Steve Raslevich > President/CEO > Northern Sound & Light, Inc. > 11 Shingiss Street > McKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 15136 >=20 > Phone: (412) 331-1000 > Fax: (412) 331-1035 >=20 > http://www.northernsound.net >=20 > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------- > This Email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential, = non-public information intended=20 > solely for the use of the individual to whom or the entity to which = they are addressed. Unauthorized=20 > use, reproduction, distribution or communication of this message or = any information contained or=20 > attached to this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.=20= >=20 > If you have received this email in error please notify the sender = immediately by e-mail or contact=20 > Northern Sound & Light at frontdesk@northernsound.net or (412) = 331-1000. > = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------------- --Apple-Mail-13--755046902 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I = have had these problems for years ......

I had people = receiving upto 60 copies of the same email but all logs showed it was = only sent once.

I believe it is something in the = WebDNA engine that may have been taken from a third party SMTP engine by = the previous developers.

The problem was = hi-lighted by an associate who was experienced some time ago the very = same problem with some older SMTP technology which for the file of me I = can not remember exactly what it was - may have been squirrel = mail.

Regards

Stuart = Tremain
IDFK Web Developments
AUSTRALIA




On 09/06/2010, at 7:17 AM, Steve Raslevich - Northern = Sound & Light wrote:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I would greatly appreciate seeing the code.  I may have to do this for all emails our site sends out. = Even a simple form when someone subscribes to or removes their email address from our mailing list the WebDNA [sendmail] is still on occasion sending the confirmation email more than once even with the ticks in the Email Preferences set all the way down to 1. Again, we didn't have this problem with our old server that was running at 1.6MHz. It didn't start happening until the new faster server was put into service.

Thanks,
Steve

Tom Duke wrote:
Steve,

Hi - you could try sending the email directly, i.e. bypass WebDNA. =C2  I write all the emails out into a folder, list through = the files and then use [shell] to send the emails out. =C2 I find this = is much faster than WebDNA - about 10 mins to send 10k emails.

This also lets me specify the return-path so I can configure auto-bounce management. =C2 The shell command I use is within the [listfiles] is as follows:


[shell]/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -f bounce-client-[getchars start=3D1&end=3D8][filename][/getchars]-[getchars start=3D9][filename][/getchars]@revolutionaries.ie < campaigns/[_RID]/[filename][/shell]


The folder name is passed as [_rid]. =C2 The bounces then go = to a catch-all POP account. =C2 I have a WebDNA script which checks this = POP account and processes all emails with 'bounce' in the address. =C2 I = can share this code (still a bit rough) if you like.

Take care
- Tom


--=20Steve RaslevichPresident/CEONorthern Sound & Light, Inc.11 Shingiss StreetMcKees Rocks, Pennsylvania 15136Phone: (412) 331-1000Fax: (412) 331-1035http://www.northernsound.net=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-------------------------------------------------------------This Email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential, =non-public information intended=20solely for the use of the individual to whom or the entity to which they =are addressed. Unauthorized=20use, reproduction, distribution or communication of this message or any =information contained or=20attached to this message is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.=20If you have received this email in error please notify the sender =immediately by e-mail or contact=20Northern Sound & Light at frontdesk@northernsound.net or (412) 331-1000.=--------------------------------------------------------------------------=-------------------------------------------------------------

= --Apple-Mail-13--755046902-- Stuart Tremain

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