Re: [WebDNA] feature suggestion - long response
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = that's a great question! I'm in the middle of rewriting my e-commerce platform to be moderately = MVC (Model-View-Controller) instead of the spaghetti code that it = currently is. (I haven't solved the m part of mvc, but I will) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that most people using webdna do = this: (mypage.tpl) HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS some logic code database lookups, appends, whatever html headers (some webdna variables used here) body [include pagetop] the html of the page webdna searches various variables used if you're a really sloppy coder... more logic intermixed [include pagebottom] /body maybe some more webdna code (/mypage.tpl) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D my new way: (mypage.tpl) (the controller) HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS include some function files as needed business logic in webdna code.=20 assign variables as will be needed in the html view (i'm trying very hard not to cheat and put searches in the html - as = part of transitioning some code to access sql databases) [include templates/mypage.html] (/mypage.tpl) (mypage.html) (the view) [text]title=3Dthe page title[/text] [text]sidebar=3Dwhatever is in the sidebar[/text] [text]content=3D all the html that is shown in the content area of the = page[/text] [include base.html] (/mypage.html) +++++KEN, here's why: +++++ (base.html) (the master page template) html header
[showif [? title]=3DT][title][/showif][showif [? title]=3DF] = generic page title[/showif] /headers body div sidebar [showif [? sidebar]=3DT][sidebar][/showif][showif [? sidebar]=3DF] = generic sidebar[/showif] /div div cotent [showif [? content]=3DT][content][/showif] /div /body /html (/base.html) this is basically a ginormous borrowing (as close as I have bothered to = develop) of Django's template system, their extend tag, and = content_blocks. My base template is always clean, & nicely balanced ("did i close that = div tag in footer.inc?") Hope this helps explain why i don't want to preset variables if i don't = need to. On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > If all you're doing is checking to see if a variable exists,=20 > why not do this?: >=20 > [text]abc=3D123[/text] > [text]def=3D[/text] >=20 > [showif [abc]!]this stuff is shown[/showif] > [showif [def]!]this stuff is hidden[/showif] >=20 > All it takes is presetting the vars at the top of the page,=20 > then you don't have to screw around with [raw] or=20 > [interpret] ... or some new syntax that would require WebDNA=20 > to be rewritten. =20 >=20 > I've done this for years, it is so efficient and effective that=20 > I've never needed anything else. You don't even have to=20 > [url] the variable tags when you do it this way! >=20 > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome
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that's a great question! I'm in the middle of rewriting my e-commerce platform to be moderately = MVC (Model-View-Controller) instead of the
Spaghetti code that it = currently is. (I haven't solved the m part of mvc, but I will) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that most people using webdna do = this: (mypage.tpl) HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS some logic code database lookups, appends, whatever html headers (some webdna variables used here) body [include pagetop] the html of the page webdna searches various variables used if you're a really sloppy coder... more logic intermixed [include pagebottom] /body maybe some more webdna code (/mypage.tpl) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D my new way: (mypage.tpl) (the controller) HAS_WEBDNA_TAGS include some function files as needed business logic in webdna code.=20 assign variables as will be needed in the html view (i'm trying very hard not to cheat and put searches in the html - as = part of transitioning some code to access sql databases) [include templates/mypage.html] (/mypage.tpl) (mypage.html) (the view)
[text]title=3Dthe page title[/text]
[text]sidebar=3Dwhatever is in the sidebar[/text]
[text]content=3D all the html that is shown in the content area of the = page[/text] [include base.html] (/mypage.html) +++++KEN, here's why: +++++ (base.html) (the master page template) html header
[showif [? title]=3DT][title][/showif][showif [? title]=3DF] = generic page title[/showif] /headers body div sidebar [showif [? sidebar]=3DT][sidebar][/showif][showif [? sidebar]=3DF] = generic sidebar[/showif] /div div cotent [showif [? content]=3DT][content][/showif] /div /body /html (/base.html) this is basically a ginormous borrowing (as close as I have bothered to = develop) of Django's template system, their extend tag, and = content_blocks. My base template is always clean, & nicely balanced ("did i close that = div tag in footer.inc?") Hope this helps explain why i don't want to preset variables if i don't = need to. On Jun 22, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > If all you're doing is checking to see if a variable exists,=20 > why not do this?: >=20 >
[text]abc=3D123[/text] >
[text]def=3D[/text] >=20 > [showif [abc]!]this stuff is shown[/showif] > [showif [def]!]this stuff is hidden[/showif] >=20 > All it takes is presetting the vars at the top of the page,=20 > then you don't have to screw around with
[raw] or=20 >
[interpret] ... or some new syntax that would require WebDNA=20 > to be rewritten. =20 >=20 > I've done this for years, it is so efficient and effective that=20 > I've never needed anything else. You don't even have to=20 >
[url] the variable tags when you do it this way! >=20 > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome
"Brian B. Burton"
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