RE: [WebDNA] making all fields on a form mandatory
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2013
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = I used to depend solely on WebDNA to do the form validation and not rely on JS. Later, to have the best of both worlds ....client and server side processing, we adopted Flash embedded content and used ActionScript to do the validation on the client side (besides other smart logic) whilst still ensuring that WebDNA did the back-end validation or rather checking. Today ,,,,,we are compelled to adopt JS. Turning off JS is really not an option these days in most browsers. The move is towards HTML5 / CSS3 / JS. It is being adopted in practically all OS, PC or mobile apps and is being driven hard by the big boys (Adobe / MS / Apple, etc.). Nowadays, folks who turn off JS are advised that they need to have JS turned on in order to work with or view the site. Online banking, e-com, b2b and mis solutions are all JS dependent in some shape or form. As such, we develop with JS front end validation support (moving away from Flash for mobile solution compatibility) but STILL using WedDNA for back-end validation. FYI ...Cheers Terry Nair -----Original Message----- From: Govinda [mailto:govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 06:47 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] making all fields on a form mandatory > That's how I do it. You have total control over error messages, etc. > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:49:32 -0600 > WebDNA Solutions
wrote: > Javascript can be turned off by the visitor so it won't work for > everyone. WebDNA can do it easily ... > On the following page check the formvariables for blank values and > post an error if any exist. > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > WebDNA Programming and Linux Server Administration > >> What's the best way to make a form with 20-30 fields mandatory to be >> filled in? >> I'm using a webdna math snippet on one site ... can't find it for >> this email though... :( Javascript? >> Jquery? >> Stay with webdna? >> Anyone doing anything like what I need to do? >> BTW >> Happy New Year to all.... JS (Javascript/JQuery) is often considered by experts to be only an *addition*... (and should never be basic/mandatory). In the case of form validation, that point is especially obvious, because a user could just turn off JS to get around JS-based form validation. So why bother with JS form-validation at all? Many don't. Not me either when I am lazy or in a hurry (but I would never neglect server-side form validation). But JS (client-side) form validation reduces server burden (and saves the user time)... i.e. why wait for a full round trip, to server and back, just find out (in the 99% of the cases where JS is not turned off) that the user forgot to input his email address? That is the value of JS for form validation. -Govinda--------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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I used to depend solely on WebDNA to do the form validation and not rely on JS. Later, to have the best of both worlds ....client and server side processing, we adopted Flash embedded content and used ActionScript to do the validation on the client side (besides other smart logic) whilst still ensuring that WebDNA did the back-end validation or rather checking. Today ,,,,,we are compelled to adopt JS. Turning off JS is really not an option these days in most browsers. The move is towards HTML5 / CSS3 / JS. It is being adopted in practically all OS, PC or mobile apps and is being driven hard by the big boys (Adobe / MS / Apple, etc.). Nowadays, folks who turn off JS are advised that they need to have JS turned on in order to work with or view the site. Online banking, e-com, b2b and mis solutions are all JS dependent in some shape or form. As such, we develop with JS front end validation support (moving away from Flash for mobile solution compatibility) but STILL using WedDNA for back-end validation. FYI ...Cheers Terry Nair -----Original Message----- From: Govinda [mailto:govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 06:47 To: talk@webdna.us Subject: Re: [WebDNA] making all fields on a form mandatory > That's how I do it. You have total control over error messages, etc. > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:49:32 -0600 > WebDNA Solutions wrote: > Javascript can be turned off by the visitor so it won't work for > everyone. WebDNA can do it easily ... > On the following page check the formvariables for blank values and > post an error if any exist. > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > WebDNA Programming and Linux Server Administration > >> What's the best way to make a form with 20-30 fields mandatory to be >> filled in? >> I'm using a webdna math snippet on one site ... can't find it for >> this email though... :( Javascript? >> Jquery? >> Stay with webdna? >> Anyone doing anything like what I need to do? >> BTW >> Happy New Year to all.... JS (Javascript/JQuery) is often considered by experts to be only an *addition*... (and should never be basic/mandatory). In the case of form validation, that point is especially obvious, because a user could just turn off JS to get around JS-based form validation. So why bother with JS form-validation at all? Many don't. Not me either when I am lazy or in a hurry (but I would never neglect server-side form validation). But JS (client-side) form validation reduces server burden (and saves the user time)... i.e. why wait for a full round trip, to server and back, just find out (in the 99% of the cases where JS is not turned off) that the user forgot to input his email address? That is the value of JS for form validation. -Govinda--------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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