Re: Separate SSL Server
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1997
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 11049
interpreted = N
texte = The issue is not our license agreement. The intention of the licenseagreement is to allow you to run a complete service on a single machine -if you can give us of a valid reason why you need a second copy ofWebCatalog running on another machine that is within the intention, justnot the letter, of the license agreement, we are always willing to makeexceptions.The real issue here is that you don't want any shared information betweenthe SSL and the non-SSL server... in our commerce model the information(shopping cart) that you collect with the non-SSL portion of your site hasto be available (a shared folder) to the SSL server...We are continually looking for ways to refine the proess and if you haveany suggestions I am all ears.Again, the last thing we want is for you to have to buy 2 copies of thesoftware to run one store.>At 5:32 PM 4/25/97, Grant Hulbert altered the fabric of cyberspace,>writing:>>> >Since WebStar/SSL is a separate server, my original plan was to have the>> >SSL on another Mac to distribute the load. Can WebCommerce handle serving>> >regular database (unsecured) pages from one Mac (www.abc.com) to build a>> >shopping cart, and then have the checkout pages only (secure) from>> >another Mac (secure.abc.com)? Would you have to run WebCommerce on both>> >Macs? If so, is that acceptable under the license agreement?>>>> We recommend you run both W* and W*SSL on the same box, in the same>>folder. Just keep SSL in the background for better performance of the>>non-SSL. Very few of your visitors ever make it all the way to the end of>>the purchase process that requires https:, so you get very few hits on>>that background W*SSL, and people expect it to be slower anyway because of>>the encryption. This is how we run it here at PCS.>>>> No need to rename the box either: just use https:/www.abc.com and>>http:/www.abc.com>>>> WebCatalog's license agreement is for running a single copy on a single CPU.>>>>So unless I just fell off the truck...>>What you are saying is run BOTH in the same folder???? That way you can>access any file with either http or https. Oh ya, no security problem here.>>The only way to run a secure server is on a differant box with a unique IP.>All secure files should ONLY be on the ssl server box.>>If I understand correctly, in the settup you would need tow copies of>WebCat to work? If so three grand is out of reach for me. I guess that>sends me back to FMPro for a solution. Glad I found this out now.>>Tiz been interesting...>><--Glenn-->>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>Glenn & Renee Davis>Exclusively Web / Net Highway (916) 887-0678>Web Page Design / Hosting Services>POB 157, Cool,CA 95614-0157>http://www.ExclusivelyWeb.com>http://www.Net-Hwy.com &&& |||> (@ @) (@ @)>----------------------------ooO---U---Ooo---------------ooO--(_)--Ooo------->>> Mailto:renee@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:glenn@Net-Hwy.com> Mailto:renee@ExclusivelyWeb.com Mailto:glenn@ExclusivelyWeb.com> Graphics Design WebmasterJay Van Vark ******************************Pacific Coast Software | WebCatalog11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | The Search is OverSuite 462 | http://www.smithmicro.comSan Diego, CA 92128 ******************************619.675.1106
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The issue is not our license agreement. The intention of the licenseagreement is to allow you to run a complete service on a single machine -if you can give us of a valid reason why you need a second copy ofWebCatalog running on another machine that is within the intention, justnot the letter, of the license agreement, we are always willing to makeexceptions.The real issue here is that you don't want any shared information betweenthe SSL and the non-SSL server... in our commerce model the information(shopping cart) that you collect with the non-SSL portion of your site hasto be available (a shared folder) to the SSL server...We are continually looking for ways to refine the proess and if you haveany suggestions I am all ears.Again, the last thing we want is for you to have to buy 2 copies of thesoftware to run one store.>At 5:32 PM 4/25/97, Grant Hulbert altered the fabric of cyberspace,>writing:>>> >Since WebStar/SSL is a separate server, my original plan was to have the>> >SSL on another Mac to distribute the load. Can WebCommerce handle serving>> >regular database (unsecured) pages from one Mac (www.abc.com) to build a>> >shopping cart, and then have the checkout pages only (secure) from>> >another Mac (secure.abc.com)? Would you have to run WebCommerce on both>> >Macs? If so, is that acceptable under the license agreement?>>>> We recommend you run both W* and W*SSL on the same box, in the same>>folder. Just keep SSL in the background for better performance of the>>non-SSL. Very few of your visitors ever make it all the way to the end of>>the purchase process that requires https:, so you get very few hits on>>that background W*SSL, and people expect it to be slower anyway because of>>the encryption. This is how we run it here at PCS.>>>> No need to rename the box either: just use https:/www.abc.com and>>http:/www.abc.com>>>> WebCatalog's license agreement is for running a single copy on a single CPU.>>>>So unless I just fell off the truck...>>What you are saying is run BOTH in the same folder???? That way you can>access any file with either http or https. Oh ya, no security problem here.>>The only way to run a secure server is on a differant box with a unique IP.>All secure files should ONLY be on the ssl server box.>>If I understand correctly, in the settup you would need tow copies of>WebCat to work? If so three grand is out of reach for me. I guess that>sends me back to FMPro for a solution. Glad I found this out now.>>Tiz been interesting...>><--Glenn-->>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>Glenn & Renee Davis>Exclusively Web / Net Highway (916) 887-0678>Web Page Design / Hosting Services>POB 157, Cool,CA 95614-0157>http://www.ExclusivelyWeb.com>http://www.Net-Hwy.com &&& |||> (@ @) (@ @)>----------------------------ooO---U---Ooo---------------ooO--(_)--Ooo------->>> Mailto:renee@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:glenn@Net-Hwy.com> Mailto:renee@ExclusivelyWeb.com Mailto:glenn@ExclusivelyWeb.com> Graphics Design WebmasterJay Van Vark ******************************Pacific Coast Software | WebCatalog11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | The Search is OverSuite 462 | http://www.smithmicro.comSan Diego, CA 92128 ******************************619.675.1106
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