Re: Separate SSL Server
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1997
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 11053
interpreted = N
texte = At 8:21 AM 4/26/97, Jay Van Vark altered the fabric of cyberspace,writing:> The issue is not our license agreement. The intention of the license> agreement is to allow you to run a complete service on a single machine -> if you can give us of a valid reason why you need a second copy of> WebCatalog running on another machine that is within the intention, just> not the letter, of the license agreement, we are always willing to make> exceptions.>> The real issue here is that you don't want any shared information between> the SSL and the non-SSL server... in our commerce model the information> (shopping cart) that you collect with the non-SSL portion of your site has> to be available (a shared folder) to the SSL server...>> We are continually looking for ways to refine the proess and if you have> any suggestions I am all ears.>> Again, the last thing we want is for you to have to buy 2 copies of the> software to run one store.>Jay,I subscribed to this list in antisapation of purchase of WebCat2. I wantedto see what the issues were and the difficulties that others were havingbefore plunking down the cash (alot for me) on the product.I have seen that the support is great. Problems people have and questionsare addressed in a timley fashion.The issue of serving ssl is important. While I belive that security isrealy perception on the Internet, customers still feel it is important.They demand that the data is on a server that can only be accessed viahttps.This means a secound box that has all the https data on it. Once the datais collected on the http server, WebCat needs to call and parse the data tothe ssl box to finish the processing. The url generated by the non-sslserver just needs to call the ssl server. This is to say when the cart isdone at http://www.abc.com it needs to be sent to https://secure.abc.com tocollect the credit card information and finish processing the order. Whileall processing of shipping and total cost is presented to the orderingparty, can be done prior to the shift to ssl to collect the credit cardinfomation, then the credit card information is collected and stored on thessl box.The informational mail to the seller is generated and sent at either boxand the random generated order url is made on the ssl box. In this way thecredit card information is collected via https and the pickup url is viahttps. Never is any data collected or stored on a server accessable viahttp.In the above example of using a shared folder inside the W* server, anyinformation contained inside it is accessable via http. Running WebStarSSL in a differant folder with a second copy of WebCat can confuse the syncof things as I understand. This would also require two copies of WebCat towork anyway. The example I cite above seems to only real solution, butrequires two copies of WebCat to work. My customers want to see the urlchange to a secure server location.While the shopping cart for selling products is the main use of ssl tocollect credit card information, there may be other times and applicationsthat ssl needs to be called to collect information. Can WebCat access the.db files from the non ssl server and parse it to the ssl server forprocessing. Something like 'back ending' a db?If anyone else can suggest a way to do this on one box with one copy ofWebCat, please let me know. I would like to take advantage of the discountoffered till the end of the month.<--Glenn-->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Glenn & Renee DavisExclusively Web / Net Highway (916) 887-0678Web Page Design / Hosting ServicesPOB 157, Cool,CA 95614-0157http://www.ExclusivelyWeb.comhttp://www.Net-Hwy.com &&& ||| (@ @) (@ @)----------------------------ooO---U---Ooo---------------ooO--(_)--Ooo------->> Mailto:renee@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:glenn@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:renee@ExclusivelyWeb.com Mailto:glenn@ExclusivelyWeb.com Graphics Design Webmaster
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At 8:21 AM 4/26/97, Jay Van Vark altered the fabric of cyberspace,writing:> The issue is not our license agreement. The intention of the license> agreement is to allow you to run a complete service on a single machine -> if you can give us of a valid reason why you need a second copy of> WebCatalog running on another machine that is within the intention, just> not the letter, of the license agreement, we are always willing to make> exceptions.>> The real issue here is that you don't want any shared information between> the SSL and the non-SSL server... in our commerce model the information> (shopping cart) that you collect with the non-SSL portion of your site has> to be available (a shared folder) to the SSL server...>> We are continually looking for ways to refine the proess and if you have> any suggestions I am all ears.>> Again, the last thing we want is for you to have to buy 2 copies of the> software to run one store.>Jay,I subscribed to this list in antisapation of purchase of WebCat2. I wantedto see what the issues were and the difficulties that others were havingbefore plunking down the cash (alot for me) on the product.I have seen that the support is great. Problems people have and questionsare addressed in a timley fashion.The issue of serving ssl is important. While I belive that security isrealy perception on the Internet, customers still feel it is important.They demand that the data is on a server that can only be accessed viahttps.This means a secound box that has all the https data on it. Once the datais collected on the http server, WebCat needs to call and parse the data tothe ssl box to finish the processing. The url generated by the non-sslserver just needs to call the ssl server. This is to say when the cart isdone at http://www.abc.com it needs to be sent to https://secure.abc.com tocollect the credit card information and finish processing the order. Whileall processing of shipping and total cost is presented to the orderingparty, can be done prior to the shift to ssl to collect the credit cardinfomation, then the credit card information is collected and stored on thessl box.The informational mail to the seller is generated and sent at either boxand the random generated order url is made on the ssl box. In this way thecredit card information is collected via https and the pickup url is viahttps. Never is any data collected or stored on a server accessable viahttp.In the above example of using a shared folder inside the W* server, anyinformation contained inside it is accessable via http. Running WebStarSSL in a differant folder with a second copy of WebCat can confuse the syncof things as I understand. This would also require two copies of WebCat towork anyway. The example I cite above seems to only real solution, butrequires two copies of WebCat to work. My customers want to see the urlchange to a secure server location.While the shopping cart for selling products is the main use of ssl tocollect credit card information, there may be other times and applicationsthat ssl needs to be called to collect information. Can WebCat access the.db files from the non ssl server and parse it to the ssl server forprocessing. Something like 'back ending' a db?If anyone else can suggest a way to do this on one box with one copy ofWebCat, please let me know. I would like to take advantage of the discountoffered till the end of the month.<--Glenn-->~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Glenn & Renee DavisExclusively Web / Net Highway (916) 887-0678Web Page Design / Hosting ServicesPOB 157, Cool,CA 95614-0157http://www.ExclusivelyWeb.comhttp://www.Net-Hwy.com &&& ||| (@ @) (@ @)----------------------------ooO---U---Ooo---------------ooO--(_)--Ooo------->> Mailto:renee@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:glenn@Net-Hwy.com Mailto:renee@ExclusivelyWeb.com Mailto:glenn@ExclusivelyWeb.com Graphics Design Webmaster
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