RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI
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texte = Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to re-enter theauth password for the email address when I changed out the webdna.ini file.Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail folders.I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.Will-----Original Message-----From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PMTo: WebDNA Talk ListSubject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGIYou need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in the emailsettings.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS
wrote:> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)> > I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are ending > up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows> > 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:> info@domaina.com0> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1> 138421958223TTdone> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:> wjs@domainb.net0> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1> 138421958226TTdone> > Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM> To: talk@webdna.us> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not > sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).> > But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro is > the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.> > :P> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > What is in the email log ?> > If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If you > have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.> > There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux SMTP > server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.> > I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the > bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to Linuxhosting.> > Stuart> > > > > On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS > > wrote:> >> Chris->> >> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On >> this server it is the only domain running.>> >> So I have:>> >> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data >> permissions>> 755>> >> WebDNA is at>> >> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and >> permissions>> >> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in lighttpd.conf >> to reflect this.>> >> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't >> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>> >> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if >> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is >> showing up in the EMailFolder.>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>> To: >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the >> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my >> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails >> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to >> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or >> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the fastCGI?> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>> >> - chris>> >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >> >> wrote:>> >>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>> >>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>> permissions>>> problem?>>> >>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and permissions >>> are>> 755>>> >>> ???>>> >>> Will>>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>> >>> Hi Will!>>> >>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to be >>> sent>> in>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone >>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for >>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one >>> single>> acceptable>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in >>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X >>> ticks, and> repeats.>>> >>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>> >>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to either >>> a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>> >>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So if >>> the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email >>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It >>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", >>> at which point the email>> thread>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>> >>> >>> >>> - chris>>> >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>> >>> wrote:>>> >>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>> >>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my >>>> templates>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>> sending>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was >>> getting>> hit>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit >>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to use >>> the form, and>> I>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>> >>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>> >>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>> >>>> mail.myserver.com>>>> EMailFolder/>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>> EMailLog/>>>> 10>>>> >>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>> >>>> Thanks,>>>> >>>> Will>>>> >>>> -->>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>> 817-431-9566>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (WebDNA 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("WJ Starck, DDS" 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (Stuart Tremain 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
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Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to re-enter theauth password for the email address when I changed out the webdna.ini file.Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail folders.I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.Will-----Original Message-----From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PMTo: WebDNA Talk ListSubject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGIYou need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in the emailsettings.RegardsStuart TremainIDFK Web DevelopmentsAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.auOn 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)> > I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are ending > up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows> > 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:> info@domaina.com0> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1> 138421958223TTdone> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:> wjs@domainb.net0> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1> 138421958226TTdone> > Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM> To: talk@webdna.us> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not > sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).> > But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro is > the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.> > :P> > Will> > -----Original Message-----> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM> To: WebDNA Talk List> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI> > What is in the email log ?> > If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If you > have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.> > There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux SMTP > server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.> > I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the > bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to Linuxhosting.> > Stuart> > > > > On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS > > wrote:> >> Chris->> >> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On >> this server it is the only domain running.>> >> So I have:>> >> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data >> permissions>> 755>> >> WebDNA is at>> >> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and >> permissions>> >> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in lighttpd.conf >> to reflect this.>> >> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't >> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>> >> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if >> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing is >> showing up in the EMailFolder.>> >> Will>> >> -----Original Message----->> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>> To: >> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>> >> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the >> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my >> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails >> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to >> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or >> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the fastCGI?> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>> >> - chris>> >> >> >> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >> >> wrote:>> >>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>> >>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>> permissions>>> problem?>>> >>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and permissions >>> are>> 755>>> >>> ???>>> >>> Will>>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----->>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>> >>> Hi Will!>>> >>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to be >>> sent>> in>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone >>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps for >>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes one >>> single>> acceptable>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in >>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X >>> ticks, and> repeats.>>> >>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>> >>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to either >>> a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>> >>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So if >>> the main thread starts to write a new email file while the email >>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It >>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done", >>> at which point the email>> thread>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>> >>> >>> >>> - chris>>> >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS >>> >>> wrote:>>> >>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>> >>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my >>>> templates>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu was>> sending>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was >>> getting>> hit>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit >>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to use >>> the form, and>> I>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>> >>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>> >>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>> >>>> mail.myserver.com>>>> EMailFolder/>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>> EMailLog/>>>> 10>>>> >>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>> >>>> Thanks,>>>> >>>> Will>>>> >>>> -->>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>> 817-431-9566>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To>> unsubscribe,>>> E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug>>> Reporting: support@webdna.us>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>> mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >> list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> > ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing > list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list.To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.usBug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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