Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI
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texte = --Apple-Mail=_AACFC6BD-A07D-424C-A1F1-073253C85EEDContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1252just few more ideas:You said you used CommuniGate. Is it an external SMTP server or is it on =the same box webdna runs on? in this case do you specify =93localhost=94 =in your email setup or the name of the smtp server? does communigate =listen on port 25?we can give you access to an external mail server so you could test and =we could check our mail server logs. I just need the IP of the WebDNA =server to relay.- chrisOn Nov 12, 2013, at 5:50 AM, WJ Starck, DDS
wrote:> Do you mean my mailserver logs, or WebDNA?>=20> It doesn't seem like the emails ever make it to my mailserver>=20> -Will>=20> Anything in the logs ?>=20> Regards> Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au>=20>=20>=20>=20> On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:45 pm, WJ Starck, DDS =wrote:>=20>> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to=20>> re-enter the auth password for the email address when I changed out =the> webdna.ini file.>>=20>> Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail =folders.>>=20>> I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.>>=20>> Will>>=20>> -----Original Message----->> From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PM>> To: WebDNA Talk List>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>=20>> You need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in =the=20>> email settings.>>=20>>=20>> Regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> IDFK Web Developments>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS =wrote:>>=20>>> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>>>=20>>> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are=20>>> ending up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>>>=20>>> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:>>> info@domaina.com0=09>>> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1>>> 138421958223TTdone>>> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:>>> wjs@domainb.net0=09>>> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1>>> 138421958226TTdone>>>=20>>> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM>>> To: talk@webdna.us>>> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not=20>>> sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>>>=20>>> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro=20=>>> is the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>>>=20>>> :P>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM>>> To: WebDNA Talk List>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> What is in the email log ?>>>=20>>> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If=20=>>> you have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>>>=20>>> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux=20>>> SMTP server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>>>=20>>> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the=20=>>> bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to=20=>>> Linux>> hosting.>>>=20>>> Stuart>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>> >>> wrote:>>>=20>>>> Chris->>>>=20>>>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On=20=>>>> this server it is the only domain running.>>>>=20>>>> So I have:>>>>=20>>>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data=20>>>> permissions>>>> 755>>>>=20>>>> WebDNA is at>>>>=20>>>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and=20>>>> permissions>>>>=20>>>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in=20>>>> lighttpd.conf to reflect this.>>>>=20>>>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't=20>>>> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>>>=20>>>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if=20=>>>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing =is=20>>>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>>>=20>>>> Will>>>>=20>>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with =FastCGI>>>>=20>>>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the=20=>>>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my=20=>>>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails=20=>>>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to=20=>>>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or=20=>>>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the> fastCGI?>>> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>>> >>>> wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>>>=20>>>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>>>> permissions>>>>> problem?>>>>>=20>>>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and=20>>>>> permissions are>>>> 755>>>>>=20>>>>> ???>>>>>=20>>>>> Will>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> -----Original Message----->>>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with=20>>>>> FastCGI>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi Will!>>>>>=20>>>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to=20=>>>>> be sent>>>> in>>>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone=20=>>>>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps =for=20>>>>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes =one=20>>>>> single>>>> acceptable>>>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in=20>>>>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X=20=>>>>> ticks, and>>> repeats.>>>>>=20>>>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>>>=20>>>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to=20>>>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>>>=20>>>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So=20=>>>>> if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the =email=20>>>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It=20=>>>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done",=20=>>>>> at which point the email>>>> thread>>>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> - chris>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>>>> >>>>> wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my=20>>>>>> templates>>>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu =was>>>> sending>>>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was=20>>>>> getting>>>> hit>>>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit=20=>>>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to=20=>>>>> use the form, and>>>> I>>>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>>>=20>>>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>>>> EMailFolder/>>>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>>>> EMailLog/>>>>>> 10>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Thanks,>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Will>>>>>>=20>>>>>> -->>>>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>>>> 817-431-9566>>>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This=20>>>>>> message is>>>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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- Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2013)
- RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI ("William J. Starck, DDS" 2013)
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--Apple-Mail=_AACFC6BD-A07D-424C-A1F1-073253C85EEDContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1252just few more ideas:You said you used CommuniGate. Is it an external SMTP server or is it on =the same box webdna runs on? in this case do you specify =93localhost=94 =in your email setup or the name of the smtp server? does communigate =listen on port 25?we can give you access to an external mail server so you could test and =we could check our mail server logs. I just need the IP of the WebDNA =server to relay.- chrisOn Nov 12, 2013, at 5:50 AM, WJ Starck, DDS wrote:> Do you mean my mailserver logs, or WebDNA?>=20> It doesn't seem like the emails ever make it to my mailserver>=20> -Will>=20> Anything in the logs ?>=20> Regards> Stuart Tremain> IDFK Web Developments> AUSTRALIA> webdna@idfk.com.au>=20>=20>=20>=20> On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:45 pm, WJ Starck, DDS =wrote:>=20>> Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, you're right I had forgotten to=20>> re-enter the auth password for the email address when I changed out =the> webdna.ini file.>>=20>> Now, however, once again nothing shows up in any of the EMail =folders.>>=20>> I'm completely stumped, this has never been a problem before.>>=20>> Will>>=20>> -----Original Message----->> From: WebDNA [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:19 PM>> To: WebDNA Talk List>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>=20>> You need to put in the username, password, port and SMTP domain in =the=20>> email settings.>>=20>>=20>> Regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> IDFK Web Developments>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 1:17 pm, WJ Starck, DDS =wrote:>>=20>>> OK, getting somewhere I hope ;)>>>=20>>> I replaced the webdna.ini with a fresh copy. Now the emails are=20>>> ending up in the EMailProblem folder. Here is what the log shows>>>=20>>> 11/11/201319:26:32Sending Message Using Auth To:>>> info@domaina.com0=09>>> 11/11/201319:26:34General email error-1>>> 138421958223TTdone>>> 11/11/201319:26:44Sending Message Using Auth To:>>> wjs@domainb.net0=09>>> 11/11/201319:26:46General email error-1>>> 138421958226TTdone>>>=20>>> Any ideas/suggestions greatly appreciated!>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: William J. Starck, DDS [mailto:wjs@bigideasoft.com]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 5:14 PM>>> To: talk@webdna.us>>> Subject: RE: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> Hmmm can't tell from the logs because at the moment WebDNA is not=20>>> sending the emails at all (nothing appears in the EMailFolder).>>>=20>>> But the server is 64 bit Linux Mint (Ubuntu based); CommuniGate Pro=20=>>> is the mail server and I'm using the FastCGI.>>>=20>>> :P>>>=20>>> Will>>>=20>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: Stuart Tremain [mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au]>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:41 PM>>> To: WebDNA Talk List>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with FastCGI>>>=20>>> What is in the email log ?>>>=20>>> If you have multiple entries it is definitely a WebDNA problem. If=20=>>> you have one entry and multiple sends you may have a SMTP problem.>>>=20>>> There was a problem similar to this a few years back with a linux=20>>> SMTP server, I can't be sure but it may have been squirrel mail.>>>=20>>> I had a similar problem on a windows server that I never got to the=20=>>> bottom of after years of trying, in fact it prompted me to move to=20=>>> Linux>> hosting.>>>=20>>> Stuart>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 6:40 am, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>> >>> wrote:>>>=20>>>> Chris->>>>=20>>>> This website's folder was a virtual domain on the other server. On=20=>>>> this server it is the only domain running.>>>>=20>>>> So I have:>>>>=20>>>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com with uid:gid www-data:www-data=20>>>> permissions>>>> 755>>>>=20>>>> WebDNA is at>>>>=20>>>> /home/wjs/lighttpd/mydomain.com/WebDNA with the same uid:gid and=20>>>> permissions>>>>=20>>>> I edited the paths for document root and WebDNA.fcgi in=20>>>> lighttpd.conf to reflect this.>>>>=20>>>> All the pages are being served by WebDNA properly, and I haven't=20>>>> moved any of the folders inside of the WebDNA folder.>>>>=20>>>> The ticks were set to 10, I tried bumping them to 30. Don't know if=20=>>>> that solves the multiple email problem, because as I said nothing =is=20>>>> showing up in the EMailFolder.>>>>=20>>>> Will>>>>=20>>>> -----Original Message----->>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:08 PM>>>> To: >>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with =FastCGI>>>>=20>>>> The first behavior you mentionned "a real customer tried to use the=20=>>>> form, and I got about a hundred emails from her one submission", my=20=>>>> guess is your ticks delay is too small. The second behavior "emails=20=>>>> aren't being sent at all" sounds like webdna.fcgi cannot write to=20=>>>> /EMailFolder, either because it is not in the place it expects, or=20=>>>> because of permissions or UID:GID. Did you move a folder? or the> fastCGI?>>> does it run with www-data:www-data? etc.>>>>=20>>>> - chris>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>>=20>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:41 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>>> >>>> wrote:>>>>=20>>>>> Thanks for the reply Chris->>>>>=20>>>>> So, if nothing is showing up at all in the EMailFolder, is it a>>>> permissions>>>>> problem?>>>>>=20>>>>> Owner and Group for that folder is www-data:www-data and=20>>>>> permissions are>>>> 755>>>>>=20>>>>> ???>>>>>=20>>>>> Will>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> -----Original Message----->>>>> From: christophe.billiottet@webdna.us=20>>>>> [mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us]>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 PM>>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] Suddenly, lots of WebDNA problems with=20>>>>> FastCGI>>>>>=20>>>>> Hi Will!>>>>>=20>>>>> Here is how WebDNA works to send email: WebDNA writes the mail to=20=>>>>> be sent>>>> in>>>>> /EMailFolder. There is only 1 thread sending email unless someone=20=>>>>> has sandboxing turned on (version 6.2). The email thread sleeps =for=20>>>>> X ticks, then wakes up, runs through the EMailFolder, processes =one=20>>>>> single>>>> acceptable>>>>> mail by forwarding it to a SMTP server, adds a log entry in=20>>>>> /EMailLog and moves the mail to /EMailCompleted, then sleeps for X=20=>>>>> ticks, and>>> repeats.>>>>>=20>>>>> Acceptable means that the filename ends in the word "done".>>>>>=20>>>>> Processing the mail means the mail is sent through port 25 to=20>>>>> either a localhost SMTP server or an external one.>>>>>=20>>>>> It will only process one email file for each sleep/wake cycle. So=20=>>>>> if the main thread starts to write a new email file while the =email=20>>>>> thread is in the middle of a waking cycle, it does not matter. It=20=>>>>> will be ignored until the main thread renames it to end in "done",=20=>>>>> at which point the email>>>> thread>>>>> will consider it during the next wake cycle.>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> - chris>>>>>=20>>>>>=20>>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:20 PM, William J. Starck, DDS=20>>>>> >>>>> wrote:>>>>>=20>>>>>> I recently moved a FastCGI install over to Linux Mint 15.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Starting about 2 months ago, I started noticing that one of my=20>>>>>> templates>>>>> with a [sendmail] that was previously working fine under Ubuntu =was>>>> sending>>>>> multiple (hundreds) of emails when the form is submitted. I was=20>>>>> getting>>>> hit>>>>> by a spambot, so I thought that the template was just getting hit=20=>>>>> rapidly multiple times. Then on Friday a real customer tried to=20=>>>>> use the form, and>>>> I>>>>> got about a hundred emails from her one submission.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Now emails aren't being sent at all, and nothing is showing up in>>>>> EMailFolder, EMailCompleted or EMailProblem folders. I'm stumped.>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Here is EmailerPrefs:>>>>>>=20>>>>>> mail.myserver.com>>>>>> EMailFolder/>>>>>> EMailCompleted/>>>>>> EMailLog/>>>>>> 10>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Any suggestions? Chris, could you ssh in and have a look?>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Thanks,>>>>>>=20>>>>>> Will>>>>>>=20>>>>>> -->>>>>> William J. Starck, DDS>>>>>> Big Idea Software, LLC>>>>>> 1850 Keller Parkway Suite 102>>>>>> Keller, TX 76248>>>>>> 817-431-9566>>>>>> http://www.bigideasoft.com>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>>=20>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This=20>>>>>> message is>>>>> sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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