Re: [WebDNA] Webserver does not respond occasionally
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texte = 1799 Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage a) it works b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB not = found or opened=20 c) WebDna not running - empty page Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he /Palle > On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >=20 > Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >=20 > First turn on error logging (in the admin) > Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): > find . -type f -size +75M -print >=20 > (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >=20 > look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >=20 > Check Apache logs. > Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >=20 > 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are coding = issues. > Donovan >=20 > Other useful commands: > find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >=20 > Hope that helps. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>=20 >> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry WebDNA >> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before on >> this server. >>=20 >> /Palle >> =E2=80=98 >>=20 >>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson
>> [27]> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle, >>>=20 >>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Christer >>>=20 >>> ************************************************************* >>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>=20 >>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>> : >>>>=20 >>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>=20 >>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow >>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>=20 >>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>> overloaded. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - chris >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t find >>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>> network >>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: >>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [25] Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us [26] >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>> list talk@webdna.us [29] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> talk-leave@webdna.us [30] archives: >>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [31] Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us [32] >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This >> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list >> talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: >> support@webdna.us >>=20 >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB >> [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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1799 Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage a) it works b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB not = found or opened=20 c) WebDna not running - empty page Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he /Palle > On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >=20 > Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >=20 > First turn on error logging (in the admin) > Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): > find . -type f -size +75M -print >=20 > (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >=20 > look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >=20 > Check Apache logs. > Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >=20 > 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are coding = issues. > Donovan >=20 > Other useful commands: > find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >=20 > Hope that helps. >=20 > Donovan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>=20 >> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry WebDNA >> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before on >> this server. >>=20 >> /Palle >> =E2=80=98 >>=20 >>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson >> [27]> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Palle, >>>=20 >>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>=20 >>> Best, >>> Christer >>>=20 >>> ************************************************************* >>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>=20 >>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>> : >>>>=20 >>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>=20 >>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow >>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>=20 >>>> /Palle >>>>=20 >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>=20 >>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>> overloaded. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - chris >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t find >>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>> network >>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: >>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [25] Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us [26] >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>> list talk@webdna.us [29] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> talk-leave@webdna.us [30] archives: >>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [31] Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us [32] >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- This >> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list >> talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: >> support@webdna.us >>=20 >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB >> [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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