Re: [WebDNA] Webserver does not respond occasionally
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texte = 1800 when the unit starts responding slower, check with "Activity Monitor" = what is the CPU charge, and what is the RAM situation. You can also use the Terminal to check the same with "top" command. netstat -an will give you a list of who is connected to your server ps aux will show you a list of all active processes. So you can see if WebDNA = is alive. - chris > On Apr 20, 2018, at 14:14, Palle Bo Nielsen
= wrote: >=20 > Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. >=20 > It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. >=20 > Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage >=20 > a) it works > b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB not = found or opened=20 > c) WebDna not running - empty page >=20 > Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he >=20 > /Palle >=20 >=20 >> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >>=20 >> Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >>=20 >> First turn on error logging (in the admin) >> Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): >> find . -type f -size +75M -print >>=20 >> (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >>=20 >> look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >>=20 >> Check Apache logs. >> Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >>=20 >> 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are coding = issues. >> Donovan >>=20 >> Other useful commands: >> find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >>=20 >> Hope that helps. >>=20 >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>>=20 >>> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry WebDNA >>> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >>> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before = on >>> this server. >>>=20 >>> /Palle >>> =E2=80=98 >>>=20 >>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson >>> [27]> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Palle, >>>>=20 >>>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>>=20 >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>>=20 >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>>=20 >>>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>> : >>>>>=20 >>>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow >>>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>>> overloaded. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> - chris >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t = find >>>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>> list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: >>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [25] Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us [26] >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list talk@webdna.us [29] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [30] archives: >>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [31] Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us [32] >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing = list >>> talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB >>> [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >>> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >>> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >>> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >>> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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1800 when the unit starts responding slower, check with "Activity Monitor" = what is the CPU charge, and what is the RAM situation. You can also use the Terminal to check the same with "top" command. netstat -an will give you a list of who is connected to your server ps aux will show you a list of all active processes. So you can see if WebDNA = is alive. - chris > On Apr 20, 2018, at 14:14, Palle Bo Nielsen = wrote: >=20 > Hmmm, used your good advise but no luck. >=20 > It is like there server is digging a deeper and deeper hole. >=20 > Without any changes from my side the server is now presenting three = different scenarios =E2=80=A6 when I try to load the frontage >=20 > a) it works > b) it works but I can see an error messages from WebDNA about a DB not = found or opened=20 > c) WebDna not running - empty page >=20 > Again I have changed nothing - Almost about to throw the unit out the = window :) he he >=20 > /Palle >=20 >=20 >> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.57, dbrooke@euca.us wrote: >>=20 >> Palle, I'd suggest the common troubleshooting techniques >>=20 >> First turn on error logging (in the admin) >> Check for large log files (especially if error logging is already = turned on, which it should not be): >> find . -type f -size +75M -print >>=20 >> (or whatever you have named your Error Log file to be) >>=20 >> look for .tmp databases... which means your databases are being = corrupted. >>=20 >> Check Apache logs. >> Check permissions, especially on files related to that error URL you = are seeing. >>=20 >> 85% (my made up number) of all "Server not running" issues are coding = issues. >> Donovan >>=20 >> Other useful commands: >> find . -type f -name 'Error Log.txt' -print >>=20 >> Hope that helps. >>=20 >> Donovan >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On 2018-04-19 13:37, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>> Server Version of WebDNA 8.5.1 on macOS. >>>=20 >>> So now the situation is developing as I am not getting "Sorry WebDNA >>> server not running.=E2=80=9D - quite often (randomly). This has = happened >>> after a restart and no modifications. This has not happened before = on >>> this server. >>>=20 >>> /Palle >>> =E2=80=98 >>>=20 >>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 20.18, Christer Olsson >>> [27]> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Palle, >>>>=20 >>>> are you using the FCGI version or the server version? >>>>=20 >>>> Best, >>>> Christer >>>>=20 >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> Christer Olsson PO Box 9160 Phone +46 40 25 85 85 >>>> Ljusa Id=C3=A9er AB SE-200 39 Malmo Fax +46 40 25 85 89 >>>> Kantyxegatan 3 Sweden http://www.ljusaideer.se [28] >>>>=20 >>>>> 19 apr. 2018 kl. 20:16 skrev Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>> : >>>>>=20 >>>>> Could be, I have very little experience with that. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Is there way to block them or slow them down? Links to =E2=80=9Chow >>>>> to=E2=80=9D are much welcome. >>>>>=20 >>>>> /Palle >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 19.39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us [17] >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Any possibility that your server is being spidered by Baidu and >>>>>> Yandex several times a day? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> These crawlers try to index as many links as possible as fast as >>>>>> possible. If your code is complex, the server can temporarily be >>>>>> overloaded. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> - chris >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Apr 19, 2018, at 14:18, Palle Bo Nielsen >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Hi Ken et al >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> A late response from my side as I have been trying a lot of >>>>>>> stuff but still ending with a platform which quite often gives >>>>>>> a long response time for the users and the following message. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I have check my router, changed cables, checked network setup, >>>>>>> logs, checked webdna setup etc. - and really I can=E2=80=99t = find >>>>>>> the issue. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Basically the issue can occur at any time and suddenly >>>>>>> disappear again. When the server is actually serving pages >>>>>>> it=E2=80=99s quite fast (as it should be). >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Any idea is very much appreciated. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 14 Apr 2018, at 20.22, Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If it says the server does not exist it could be a bad >>>>>>>> network >>>>>>>> connection rather than an issue with apache or webdna. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> If you have not checked your logs at the time the error >>>>>>>> occurs, >>>>>>>> now might be a good time to do so. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Kenneth Grome >>>>>>>> WebDNA Solutions >>>>>>>> http://www.webdnasolutions.com [7] >>>>>>>> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On 04/14/2018 08:06 AM, Palle Bo Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> This is the setup >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> * macOS (most recent) >>>>>>>>> * Apache (Not AppleServer) >>>>>>>>> * WebDNA 8.5.1 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> The above has been working fine for some weeks now until >>>>>>>>> now when >>>>>>>>> I get feedback from some of the users of the website. >>>>>>>>> Maybe the >>>>>>>>> issue has been there since day one. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> The error is some kind of timeout. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB [1] >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Link is in danish and just a screenshot. It says that >>>>>>>>> Safari can >>>>>>>>> not open the page. since the server on which the page iOS >>>>>>>>> located >>>>>>>>> does not exist. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> It does not happen every time and the frequency is quite >>>>>>>>> unknown >>>>>>>>> but several users report it happens multiple time a day. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Any ideas and/or good advice? >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> /Palle >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> mailing >>>>>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [2] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [3] archives: >>>>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [4] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>>>> support@webdna.us [5] >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>> the mailing list talk@webdna.us [8] >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us [9] >>>>>>>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [10] >>>>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us [11] >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> mailing list talk@webdna.us [13] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [14] archives: >>>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [15] Bug Reporting: >>>>>>> support@webdna.us [16] >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>>> list talk@webdna.us [18] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [19] archives: >>>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [20] Bug Reporting: >>>>>> support@webdna.us [21] >>>>>=20 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>>> list talk@webdna.us [23] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [24] archives: >>>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [25] Bug Reporting: >>>>> support@webdna.us [26] >>>>=20 >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing >>>> list talk@webdna.us [29] To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> talk-leave@webdna.us [30] archives: >>>> http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 [31] Bug Reporting: >>>> support@webdna.us [32] >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- This >>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing = list >>> talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >>> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: >>> support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> Links: >>> ------ >>> [1] https://imgur.com/a/NE2sB >>> [2] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [3] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [4] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [5] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [6] mailto:ken@webdnasolutions.com >>> [7] http://www.webdnasolutions.com/ >>> [8] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [9] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [10] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [11] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [12] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>> [13] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [14] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [15] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [16] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [17] mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us >>> [18] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [19] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [20] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [21] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [22] mailto:powerpalle@powerpalle.dk >>> [23] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [24] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [25] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [26] mailto:support@webdna.us >>> [27] mailto:christer@ljusaideer.se >>> [28] http://www.ljusaideer.se/ >>> [29] mailto:talk@webdna.us >>> [30] mailto:talk-leave@webdna.us >>> [31] http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >>> [32] mailto:support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list talk@webdna.us >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us >> archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us .
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