Been there. Good on you for helping that long Stuart. I learned long ag=o to steer clear from people who don=E2=80=99t understand the value of a pe=rsons time / energy.=C2=A0---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@w=ebdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: suppo=rt@webdna.usD. Brooke MobileI have really leaned a=nother one of this life's lessons today.As any memb=er of this list will may or may not know I have been an active member of th=is list for 20+ years.During this time I have lea=rned so much about the use of WebDNA from people such as Ken Grome, Donovan= Brooke, and others that have since moved on.I ha=ve always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times have gone fa=r and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back to the c=ommunity from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the reason why =I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world.I have seen many users over the years with configuration proble=ms, in particular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason wh=y I wrote the instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fr=esh installation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an imag=e of the same available to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that =WebDNA would become a quick easy solution for members of this list to imple=ment.I had a number of people request a copy of t=his image, none of whom have taken up the offer. One user requested that I =build an image that anyone could use on any platform. However this is not p=ossible for cloud servers as each cloud provider has their own flavour of U=buntu tuned to their hosting configuration. The instructions that I publish= will work if you follow the steps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 insta=llation.And then along came Brian Harrington.=C2==A0I must preface this with the fact that everyth=ing that i have done for Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good w=ill that I extend to all members of this list.Bri=an was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I offer=ed to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than a minut=e later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, Brian =had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not received the im=age that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easier =and so that he didn=E2=80=99t have to go backwards I simply completed the i=nstallation from the instructions=C2=A0that I had published.
=Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ub=untu 18.04 server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server tha=t was only requiring a license number.As you will= know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is also installe=d on the Droplet.What happened next is purely com=ical, if I published the emails that I received and you read the warnings t=hat I provided, plus the repeated advice that I gave, =C2=A0you would see e=xactly where Brian=E2=80=99s problems are.From he=re all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html and set =up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with all th=e standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA installer.---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@w=ebdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: suppo=rt@webdna.usAs an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, on=e on 80 the other on 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that =he could have a working reference.However Brian h=ad other plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Library/Websites to be= the root directory of his webserver, remember this is the same person that= has had no experience with a Linux server, he has had experience with a Ma=c server so I believed that he had a good sense of being able to manage a L=inux Server. Brian didn=E2=80=99t want to use the installed Webmin, he want=ed to do all Apache configuration by uploading files with FTP however he di=dn=E2=80=99t have a FTP client.Brian, you may rem=ember the Skype message that I sent you expressing my concern that if you w=ork outside the standard installation you would break it.For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questi=ons, provide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s em=ails were interrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not= able to answer him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference. Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet ano=ther email from Brian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fix=ed this for him too, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and ad=vised him that in 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend.=So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on= my computer this morning after have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterd=ay to see the usually quiet WebDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to ha=ve issues with his installation.What does surpris=e me, and leads me to writing this email are comments pointed to myself by =Brian such as:"TalkList= members say they will help... then they are GONE and suddenly don't ha=s access to email or skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting you up =to fail...!!!=E2=80=9DBrian had a very large VHost file that he moved from= his Mac server to the Linux environment without any alterations. He believ=es that it was easier to change the configuration of the Linux/Apache serve=r than to use search and replace on his VHost file. Brian=E2=80=99s problem=s relate directly to Permissions and the relocation of his server root. I n=ote that Brian has said:=C2=A0"=C2=A0I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webse=rver files are gonna be an issue when apache2.conf list share folder and ev=erything else.=E2=80=9D, I guess to Brian taking advice from someone th=at has 23=C2=A0operational Ubuntu 18.04 servers really doesn=E2=80=99t make= much sense.So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would= have been 100% operational as soon as all your files had been uploaded to =the /var/www/html=C2=A0directory and had their ownership and preferences ch=ecked, and had=C2=A0simply changed the root=C2=A0locations in your=C2=A0vho=st configuration file simply with a search and replace with your text edito=r. If you listened to the FREE advice that you were given or you could have= even asked me to do it you would have had a fully functional server many d=ays ago.Now= I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you have =made about me.=C2=A0
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