Re: TRAINING videos - Prove IT.
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 1998
It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 21516
interpreted = N
texte = Say what you want but any company that charges another 800 for videos totrain you how to use there product that cost $2500 because the manuals areweak will never get me as acustomer.WebCatalogue may be a good product once your hooked. But from all thepostings I read on this news group you'll never hook me. I don't have timein this busy computer world to have one company tell me where and how to goto the bathroom then tell me if I want toilet paper I have to pay another$800.00I agree with this positing below 100%>I too, have been interested in the videos strictly because the>documentation is so weak.>>I am very concerned that there are no unbiased reviews of them or even>any sample quicktime clips to look at. I would like to at least sample>them somehow to determine the quality of the tapes. Anything short of>that would be stupid since the person/people that organized the videos>appear to be the SAME person/people that created the lame manual.>>However, I inquired about the return policy and was a bit shocked. If I>buy them for 700 bucks and they turn out to be crap, I can return them>but the video company will charge a 25% return fee. Spending 175 bucks>just to find out a product sucks is almost as bad as spending thousands>for a product and then hundreds more for the manual.>>>I know that you don't want people making bootleg copies of the tapes but>can you honestly blame us for being a bit gunshy when it comes to>Pacific-Coast's intructional materials?>>>Come on people - post a few clips of those tapes - Let us feel good about>pouring tons of cash into our chosen database solution.>>>dt.>>>>>Subject: Re: Share cost of training videos!>>Sent: 11/20/98 2:21 PM>>Received: 11/20/98 3:19 PM>>From: Paul Uttermohlen, Paul@columbusrealestate.com>>Reply-To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com>>To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com>>>>Jay,>>>>While it may be considered questionable, I don't think that it is so>>obviously or absolutely considered theft.>>>>Two entities can go in together to buy a product and share it. It would be>>theft if company one copied it and sold the copy to company two. See, not>>so obvious, not so absolute.>>>>I could buy a copy and send it to (share it) with anyone on this list that>>asks to borrow it. While it diminishes the potential profit of the>>copyright holder, that in no way constitutes theft. I'd just be a library...>>>>In all fairness, I would not do this. But if challenged, and I love a>>challenge, there would be nothing to stop me. Not even your perception of>>the law.>>>>Paul>>>>>Obviously this is considered theft and Pacific Coast Software would assist>>>the rightful owners of the rights to that material in every way possible.>>>>>>>Yes I would be willing to do this.>>>>>>>>Michael Barnett>>>>>>>>Also we are looking for a webmaster who is up to speed with this>>>>software. If anyone is interested call or email. dugan@pionet.net or>>>>800-859-2024.>>>>>>>>Top pay>>>>benfits>>>>lots of freedom>>>>>>Jay Van Vark *******************************>>>Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog)>>>11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & Development>>>Suite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.com>>>San Diego, CA 92128 *******************************>>>619.675.1106>>>>>> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/ Business -
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Say what you want but any company that charges another 800 for videos totrain you how to use there product that cost $2500 because the manuals areweak will never get me as acustomer.WebCatalogue may be a good product once your hooked. But from all thepostings I read on this news group you'll never hook me. I don't have timein this busy computer world to have one company tell me where and how to goto the bathroom then tell me if I want toilet paper I have to pay another$800.00I agree with this positing below 100%>I too, have been interested in the videos strictly because the>documentation is so weak.>>I am very concerned that there are no unbiased reviews of them or even>any sample quicktime clips to look at. I would like to at least sample>them somehow to determine the quality of the tapes. Anything short of>that would be stupid since the person/people that organized the videos>appear to be the SAME person/people that created the lame manual.>>However, I inquired about the return policy and was a bit shocked. If I>buy them for 700 bucks and they turn out to be crap, I can return them>but the video company will charge a 25% return fee. Spending 175 bucks>just to find out a product sucks is almost as bad as spending thousands>for a product and then hundreds more for the manual.>>>I know that you don't want people making bootleg copies of the tapes but>can you honestly blame us for being a bit gunshy when it comes to>Pacific-Coast's intructional materials?>>>Come on people - post a few clips of those tapes - Let us feel good about>pouring tons of cash into our chosen database solution.>>>dt.>>>>>Subject: Re: Share cost of training videos!>>Sent: 11/20/98 2:21 PM>>Received: 11/20/98 3:19 PM>>From: Paul Uttermohlen, Paul@columbusrealestate.com>>Reply-To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com>>To: WebDNA-Talk@smithmicro.com>>>>Jay,>>>>While it may be considered questionable, I don't think that it is so>>obviously or absolutely considered theft.>>>>Two entities can go in together to buy a product and share it. It would be>>theft if company one copied it and sold the copy to company two. See, not>>so obvious, not so absolute.>>>>I could buy a copy and send it to (share it) with anyone on this list that>>asks to borrow it. While it diminishes the potential profit of the>>copyright holder, that in no way constitutes theft. I'd just be a library...>>>>In all fairness, I would not do this. But if challenged, and I love a>>challenge, there would be nothing to stop me. Not even your perception of>>the law.>>>>Paul>>>>>Obviously this is considered theft and Pacific Coast Software would assist>>>the rightful owners of the rights to that material in every way possible.>>>>>>>Yes I would be willing to do this.>>>>>>>>Michael Barnett>>>>>>>>Also we are looking for a webmaster who is up to speed with this>>>>software. If anyone is interested call or email. dugan@pionet.net or>>>>800-859-2024.>>>>>>>>Top pay>>>>benfits>>>>lots of freedom>>>>>>Jay Van Vark *******************************>>>Pacific Coast Software | eCommerce (WebCatalog)>>>11770 Bernardo Plaza Court | Site Hosting & Development>>>Suite 453 | http://www.smithmicro.com>>>San Diego, CA 92128 *******************************>>>619.675.1106>>>>>> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/|\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/Paul Uttermohlen, Internet Marketspace, Inc. \_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/ mailto:paul@ims1.com - Website Development \_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/ Business - _\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/ Real Estate - _\_\_\_\_>> _/_/_/Websites - Children _/ _\_\_\_>>_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_>>>>>>>>
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