Re: One Hour Email

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2002


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texte = Check the setting in SMTP on your server is the same as your POP server-- Stuart Tremain idfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) wrote: >It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I >think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think. >When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one >hour fast. > >I give up. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >Stuart Tremain >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: One Hour Email > >On w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not >used. > >The time is set by w2000 SMTP server. > >Did the time=[Time] give you the result you were after? > > > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) > wrote: >>When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following >>header: >> >>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>mail.netsourcery.com >> (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34 >>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net >>from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com >>Subject: Web Site Contact >>Time: 18:51:37 >>Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>X-RCPT-TO: >>Status: U >>X-UIDL: 318584662 >> >>In comparison to the previous header: >> >>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>>mail.netsourcery.com >>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U >>>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >> >> >>So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not >>sure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>Stuart Tremain >>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM >>To: WebCatalog Talk >>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >> >>Try putting &Time=[Time] in the sendmail. >> >>ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time >>test&Time=[Time]] >> >>I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue. >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Stuart Tremain >>idfk web developments - Australia >> >>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >> wrote: >>>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the >>>header? >>> >>>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing. >>> >>>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine. >>>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1 >>>hour difference in the header information. >>>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the >>>correct time. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>>Stuart Tremain >>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM >>>To: WebCatalog Talk >>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >>> >>>Kimberly >>> >>>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP >>server >>>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is >>>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Stuart Tremain >>>idfk web developments - Australia >>> >>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >>> wrote: >>>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list >>>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh} >>>> >>>>Here's what we have... >>>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded ) >>>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0 >>>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server ) >>>> >>>>Now for the problem. >>>> >>>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks >like >>>>this: >>>> >>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>>mail.netsourcery.com >>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U >>>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >>>> >>>> >>>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time. >>>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California >>>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am, >>>>therefore... >>>> >>>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct. >>>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour >>>>wrong. >>>> >>>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail >>>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's >>>>Emailer. >>>> >>>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight >>>>savings time. >>>> >>>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned >>>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0 >?), >>>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed. >>>> >>>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do >>understand... >>>>the server has two clock references. >>>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's >>>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings >>>>time. >>>> >>>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it >>>from >>>>the system clock of from the OS? >>>> >>>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that >>>>could be altered in order to solve this problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  2. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  3. Re: One Hour Email (Scott Anderson 2002)
  4. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  5. Re: One Hour Email (Brian Fries 2002)
  6. Re: Talk Archives Was: One Hour Email (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2002)
  7. Talk Archives Was: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  8. Re: One Hour Email (Glenn Busbin 2002)
  9. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  10. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  11. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  12. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  13. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  14. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  15. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  16. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  17. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  18. Re: One Hour Email (Gary Krockover 2002)
  19. Re: One Hour Email (John Peacock 2002)
  20. Re: One Hour Email (Kenneth Grome 2002)
  21. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  22. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  23. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  24. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  25. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  26. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  27. Re: One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
  28. Re: One Hour Email (Stuart Tremain 2002)
  29. Re: One Hour Email (Glenn Busbin 2002)
  30. One Hour Email (Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) 2002)
Check the setting in SMTP on your server is the same as your POP server-- Stuart Tremain idfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) wrote: >It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I >think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think. >When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one >hour fast. > >I give up. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >Stuart Tremain >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM >To: WebCatalog Talk >Subject: Re: One Hour Email > >On w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not >used. > >The time is set by w2000 SMTP server. > >Did the time=[time] give you the result you were after? > > > >-- >Stuart Tremain >idfk web developments - Australia > >On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) > wrote: >>When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following >>header: >> >>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>mail.netsourcery.com >> (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34 >>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net >>from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com >>Subject: Web Site Contact >>Time: 18:51:37 >>Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>X-RCPT-TO: >>Status: U >>X-UIDL: 318584662 >> >>In comparison to the previous header: >> >>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>>mail.netsourcery.com >>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U >>>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >> >> >>So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800 >>>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not >>sure. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>Stuart Tremain >>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM >>To: WebCatalog Talk >>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >> >>Try putting &Time=[time] in the sendmail. >> >>ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time >>test&Time=[time]] >> >>I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue. >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>Stuart Tremain >>idfk web developments - Australia >> >>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >> wrote: >>>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the >>>header? >>> >>>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing. >>> >>>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine. >>>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1 >>>hour difference in the header information. >>>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the >>>correct time. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of >>>Stuart Tremain >>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM >>>To: WebCatalog Talk >>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email >>> >>>Kimberly >>> >>>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP >>server >>>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is >>>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Stuart Tremain >>>idfk web developments - Australia >>> >>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) >>> wrote: >>>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list >>>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh} >>>> >>>>Here's what we have... >>>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded ) >>>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0 >>>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server ) >>>> >>>>Now for the problem. >>>> >>>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks >like >>>>this: >>>> >>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by >>>>mail.netsourcery.com >>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 >>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800 >>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com >>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com >>>>Subject: Web Site Contact >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii >>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com> >>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U >>>>X-UIDL: 318584619 >>>> >>>> >>>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time. >>>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California >>>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am, >>>>therefore... >>>> >>>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct. >>>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour >>>>wrong. >>>> >>>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail >>>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's >>>>Emailer. >>>> >>>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight >>>>savings time. >>>> >>>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned >>>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0 >?), >>>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed. >>>> >>>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do >>understand... >>>>the server has two clock references. >>>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's >>>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings >>>>time. >>>> >>>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it >>>from >>>>the system clock of from the OS? >>>> >>>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that >>>>could be altered in order to solve this problem? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >>> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------- >>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >>> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >> >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------- >>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- >This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . >To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . 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