Re: One Hour Email
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texte = Check the setting in SMTP on your server is the same as your POP server-- Stuart Tremainidfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)
wrote:>It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I>think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think.>When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one>hour fast.>>I give up.>>>>-----Original Message----->From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>Stuart Tremain>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM>To: WebCatalog Talk>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>On w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not>used.>>The time is set by w2000 SMTP server.>>Did the time=[Time] give you the result you were after?>>>>-->Stuart Tremain>idfk web developments - Australia>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)> wrote:>>When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following>>header:>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>mail.netsourcery.com>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800>>to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net>>from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>Time: 18:51:37>>Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>Status: U>>X-UIDL: 318584662>>>>In comparison to the previous header:>>>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>>>mail.netsourcery.com>>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18>>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800>>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com>>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com>>>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0>>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii>>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U>>>>X-UIDL: 318584619>>>>>>So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800>>>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not>>sure.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----->>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>>Stuart Tremain>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM>>To: WebCatalog Talk>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>>>Try putting &Time=[Time] in the sendmail.>>>>ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time>>test&Time=[Time]]>>>>I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue.>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>Stuart Tremain>>idfk web developments - Australia>>>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)>> wrote:>>>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the>>>header?>>>>>>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing.>>>>>>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine.>>>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1>>>hour difference in the header information.>>>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the>>>correct time.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----->>>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>>>Stuart Tremain>>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM>>>To: WebCatalog Talk>>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>>>>>Kimberly>>>>>>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP>>server>>>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is>>>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>Stuart Tremain>>>idfk web developments - Australia>>>>>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)>>> wrote:>>>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list>>>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh}>>>>>>>>Here's what we have...>>>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded )>>>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0>>>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server )>>>>>>>>Now for the problem.>>>>>>>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks>like>>>>this:>>>>>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>>>mail.netsourcery.com>>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18>>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800>>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com>>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com>>>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0>>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii>>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U>>>>X-UIDL: 318584619>>>>>>>>>>>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time.>>>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California>>>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am,>>>>therefore...>>>>>>>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct.>>>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour>>>>wrong.>>>>>>>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail>>>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's>>>>Emailer.>>>>>>>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight>>>>savings time.>>>>>>>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned>>>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0>?),>>>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed.>>>>>>>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do>>understand...>>>>the server has two clock references.>>>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's>>>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings>>>>time.>>>>>>>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it>>>from>>>>the system clock of from the OS?>>>>>>>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that>>>>could be altered in order to solve this problem?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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Check the setting in SMTP on your server is the same as your POP server-- Stuart Tremainidfk web developments - AustraliaOn Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\) wrote:>It's not really the time that's causing the problem. I don't think. I>think the problem is with the -0800. It should be. I think.>When I open this email message in MS Outlook, the time listed there is one>hour fast.>>I give up.>>>>-----Original Message----->From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>Stuart Tremain>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:11 PM>To: WebCatalog Talk>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>On w2000 Emailer does not come into the process. It is not>used.>>The time is set by w2000 SMTP server.>>Did the time=[time] give you the result you were after?>>>>-->Stuart Tremain>idfk web developments - Australia>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)> wrote:>>When I add &time=[time] to [sendmail]... I get the following>>header:>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>mail.netsourcery.com>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id A026840088; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:34>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800>>to: fauxefficient@mcleodusa.net>>from: webmaster@fauxefficient.com>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>Time: 18:51:37>>Message-Id: <200209091851716.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>Status: U>>X-UIDL: 318584662>>>>In comparison to the previous header:>>>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>>>mail.netsourcery.com>>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18>>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800>>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com>>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com>>>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0>>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii>>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U>>>>X-UIDL: 318584619>>>>>>So, where exactly does this part <<< Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 18:51:46 -0800>>>>> come from? I thought it was from Emailer, now I'm not>>sure.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----->>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>>Stuart Tremain>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:50 PM>>To: WebCatalog Talk>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>>>Try putting &Time=[time] in the sendmail.>>>>ie [SendMail to=name@domain.com&From=fromname@domain.com&Subject=time>>test&Time=[time]]>>>>I haven't tried it myself but this would force the issue.>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>Stuart Tremain>>idfk web developments - Australia>>>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)>> wrote:>>>I understand that. But doesn't WebCatalog set the Date in the>>>header?>>>>>>I'm sorry. I'm confused by the entire thing.>>>>>>If I send email regularly, simply using Outlook, the time is fine.>>>If I send email using a template and the [sendmail] command, there is a 1>>>hour difference in the header information.>>>If I use [time] in any template, WebCatalog shows me the>>>correct time.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----->>>From: WebCatalog Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com]On Behalf Of>>>Stuart Tremain>>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:45 PM>>>To: WebCatalog Talk>>>Subject: Re: One Hour Email>>>>>>Kimberly>>>>>>On W2000 server platform Emailer is not used. The w2000 internal SMTP>>server>>>is the engine sending the email. WebCatalog only creates the file that is>>>ultimately sent by the w2000 SMTP Server.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-->>>Stuart Tremain>>>idfk web developments - Australia>>>>>>On Tuesday, 10 September 2002, Kimberly D. Walls \(Ingram\)>>> wrote:>>>>Kenneth Grome just mentioned this problem, but I can't find any talk-list>>>>archives newer than June 2002. {sigh}>>>>>>>>Here's what we have...>>>> WebCatalog: Version 4.5.0 ( just upgraded )>>>> Mail Server: iMail 7.0>>>> Server: Windows 2000 ( Advanced Server )>>>>>>>>Now for the problem.>>>>>>>>When using WebCatalog's Emailer in a template, the email header looks>like>>>>this:>>>>>>>>Received: from hfd-www.netsourcery.com [192.168.254.15] by>>>>mail.netsourcery.com>>>> (SMTPD32-7.00) id AF9A818008E; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18>>>>Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 06:18:18 -0800>>>>to: info@cherokeepharmacy.com>>>>from: kim@netsourcery.com>>>>Subject: Web Site Contact>>>>MIME-Version: 1.0>>>>Content-Type: text/html;charset=us-ascii>>>>Message-Id: <200209090618412.SM01176@hfd-www.netsourcery.com>>>>>X-RCPT-TO: >>>>Status: U>>>>X-UIDL: 318584619>>>>>>>>>>>>Notice the difference in the Received time and the Date time.>>>>I am in Tennessee (Eastern Daylight Time) and the server is in California>>>>(Pacific Daylight Time), I send the message this morning at 9:18am,>>>>therefore...>>>>>>>>The Received setting shows the time as, which is correct.>>>>The Date settings shows the time as -0800, which is 1 hour>>>>wrong.>>>>>>>>From what I understand, the Received setting is provided by the Mail>>>>Server and in this case, the Date setting is provided by WebCatalog's>>>>Emailer.>>>>>>>>So, my assumption is that Emailer is not seeing the Daylight>>>>savings time.>>>>>>>>When Kenneth Grome asked about this problem last week, someone mentioned>>>>that it was a bug that had been corrected in the latest version (4.5.0>?),>>>>but according to my testing, the bug still has not been fixed.>>>>>>>>Now, I don't understand how Emailer works, but from what I do>>understand...>>>>the server has two clock references.>>>>The first is the actual system clock, then the second would be the OS's>>>>interpretation of that clock, which includes Daylight Savings>>>>time.>>>>>>>>I would like to know where Emailer gathers the time information... is it>>>from>>>>the system clock of from the OS?>>>>>>>>Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? Are there any Emailer files that>>>>could be altered in order to solve this problem?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>>> the mailing list .>>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list .>>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->>This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to>>Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>>>>------------------------------------------------------------->This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .>To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to >Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/>-------------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list .To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://search.smithmicro.com/
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