Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT...

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2003


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texte = I have had no qualms with SMSI and I think they have done a superb job in all their relations with my company but this aspect of being able to examine any one of my files is very concerning to me. I know we have gone over this before with numerous other threads in the past few weeks but I would really appreciate it if SMSI could clear-up the confusion and perhaps give some feedback on Kenneth's argument. Maybe Scott could comment.Could a disgruntled employee potentially connect to my system and get valuable information such as credit cards, password, and or even worse - destroy the information?This all gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.Thanks.~danOn 4/25/03 9:18 AM, Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote:> On 25.4.2003 15:06 Uhr, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online store. >> Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are not >> supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card numbers >> are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its potential >> software hackers? > > Of course, but then donšt use any computer. Do you have Credit Cards? If so > and you pay in any restaurant they have the same number UNENCRYPTED in their > hands. Now, I feel more insecure with the employees in a restaurant then > with SMSI. > >> What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? Have you >> met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if you >> know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL* happy >> at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's >> management? > > With this argument you definitely donšt have to use any computer or > technical device in any way anymore:-) > > I know some developers and after seeing them wondered how they could ever > come up with such a good application (no names mentioned here). > > But honestly, SMSI will just hurt themselves if they would do something like > this. There are still trustworthy people out there. > >> This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create features >> that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server that >> belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT data is >> really being sent back to the company ... > > Ok, true. Maybe SMSI could display a message telling that they are about to > send a message back to them and that no private data is being sent. Like in > BBEdit or others apps sometimes do. > > But like I said, you can never be sure with ANY program that sits on your > computer what is being sent back and forth. > > Sincerely, > Nitai Aventaggiato > CEO----------------------------- Daniel Schutzsmith Senior Web Developer Berlin Productions, Inc. dan@berlinprod.com http://www.berlinprod.com (914) 683-5759 (914) 683-5751 fax ----------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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  2. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Dan Strong 2003)
  3. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  4. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Doug Deck 2003)
  5. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  6. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  7. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  8. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Jeff Logan 2003)
  9. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Jay Van Vark 2003)
  10. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  11. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Karl Schroll 2003)
  12. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  13. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Joe D'Andrea 2003)
  14. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Doug Deck 2003)
  15. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Donovan 2003)
  16. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  17. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  18. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (marc@kaiwi.com (Marc Kaiwi) 2003)
  19. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  20. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Pat Holliday 2003)
  21. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Claude Gelinas 2003)
  22. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Daniel Schutzsmith 2003)
  23. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Bob Minor 2003)
  24. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  25. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  26. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  27. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  28. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Rene van der Velde 2003)
  29. Re: Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Kenneth Grome 2003)
  30. Pirated WebCat? NOT... (Rob Blair 2003)
I have had no qualms with SMSI and I think they have done a superb job in all their relations with my company but this aspect of being able to examine any one of my files is very concerning to me. I know we have gone over this before with numerous other threads in the past few weeks but I would really appreciate it if SMSI could clear-up the confusion and perhaps give some feedback on Kenneth's argument. Maybe Scott could comment.Could a disgruntled employee potentially connect to my system and get valuable information such as credit cards, password, and or even worse - destroy the information?This all gives me a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.Thanks.~danOn 4/25/03 9:18 AM, Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote:> On 25.4.2003 15:06 Uhr, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> I have credit card numbers to hide because I run an online store. >> Anyone else have something similar to hide from people who are not >> supposed to have access to it? How do we know credit card numbers >> are not being sent back to SMSI, or even to one of its potential >> software hackers? > > Of course, but then donšt use any computer. Do you have Credit Cards? If so > and you pay in any restaurant they have the same number UNENCRYPTED in their > hands. Now, I feel more insecure with the employees in a restaurant then > with SMSI. > >> What evidence do you have that they are not some freaks? Have you >> met or do you know any of the programmers personally? Even if you >> know then, how can you possibly assure us that they are *ALL* happy >> at SMSI, and that none of them have axes to grind with SMSI's >> management? > > With this argument you definitely donšt have to use any computer or > technical device in any way anymore:-) > > I know some developers and after seeing them wondered how they could ever > come up with such a good application (no names mentioned here). > > But honestly, SMSI will just hurt themselves if they would do something like > this. There are still trustworthy people out there. > >> This doesn't matter when the developers do not also create features >> that give them unauthorized access to the data on my server that >> belongs to innocent online shoppers. God only knows WHAT data is >> really being sent back to the company ... > > Ok, true. Maybe SMSI could display a message telling that they are about to > send a message back to them and that no private data is being sent. Like in > BBEdit or others apps sometimes do. > > But like I said, you can never be sure with ANY program that sits on your > computer what is being sent back and forth. > > Sincerely, > Nitai Aventaggiato > CEO----------------------------- Daniel Schutzsmith Senior Web Developer Berlin Productions, Inc. dan@berlinprod.com http://www.berlinprod.com (914) 683-5759 (914) 683-5751 fax ----------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Daniel Schutzsmith

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