Re: WebDNA - fun to compare
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texte = Does the WebDNA MySQL license translate into an advantage for non-open source applications versus PHP? I guess I'm interested in how the cost breaks out in various situations (one application redistributed or many applications hosted). In some situations, is the cost of WebDNA cheaper than MySQL + PHP or is it even close? -----Original Message----- From: Nitai @ ComputerOil
Sent: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:20:22 +0100 To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare Thanks John. I was just pointing out to Ken's posting about PHP and why WebDNa is not money making machine for him, that MySQL is not free, IF one does NOT distribute it's own product as open source. Just as you pointed out "There is no charge as long as the application is under the GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial application." Nitai -- Redakto - Content Management that simply works Content Management & eBusiness Systems ComputerOil® AG Dammstrasse 7 5400 Baden / Switzerland Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.com http://computeroil.com > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of > John Peacock > Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 17:16 > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare > > Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: > > > just want to point out (again) that MySQL is actually not for free since > they have changed their license agreement some time ago. > > You keep saying this, but I don't think you really understand what the > license supports and doesn't support. The Open Source License clearly > allows PHP developers (for example) who use MySQL to freely use MySQL as > long as their own software is also under the GPL (or a compatible > license). There is no charge as long as the application is under the > GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial > application. RT (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) is a good example of > a commercial application which is freely redistributable; they make > their money on support and customization. Thus, they can require MySQL > without needing to pay for a commercial license. > > Part of the cost of WebCatalog is that SMSI has paid for a Commercial > License to MySQL, which allows them to distribute WebDNA with MySQL > support. There is no additional cost to us if we we use MySQL in our > own proprietary products using WebDNA, since the MySQL license is paid > for as part of the license for WebCatalog. > > John > > -- > John Peacock > Director of Information Research and Technology > Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group > 4501 Forbes Boulevard > Suite H > Lanham, MD 20706 > 301-459-3366 x.5010 > fax 301-429-5748 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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Does the WebDNA MySQL license translate into an advantage for non-open source applications versus PHP? I guess I'm interested in how the cost breaks out in various situations (one application redistributed or many applications hosted). In some situations, is the cost of WebDNA cheaper than MySQL + PHP or is it even close? -----Original Message----- From: Nitai @ ComputerOil Sent: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:20:22 +0100 To: "WebDNA Talk" Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare Thanks John. I was just pointing out to Ken's posting about PHP and why WebDNa is not money making machine for him, that MySQL is not free, IF one does NOT distribute it's own product as open source. Just as you pointed out "There is no charge as long as the application is under the GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial application." Nitai -- Redakto - Content Management that simply works Content Management & eBusiness Systems ComputerOil® AG Dammstrasse 7 5400 Baden / Switzerland Telefon +41 (0)844 44 55 66 info@computeroil.com http://computeroil.com > -----Original Message----- > From: WebDNA Talk [mailto:WebDNA-Talk@talk.smithmicro.com] On Behalf Of > John Peacock > Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 17:16 > To: WebDNA Talk > Subject: Re: WebDNA - fun to compare > > Nitai @ ComputerOil wrote: > > > just want to point out (again) that MySQL is actually not for free since > they have changed their license agreement some time ago. > > You keep saying this, but I don't think you really understand what the > license supports and doesn't support. The Open Source License clearly > allows PHP developers (for example) who use MySQL to freely use MySQL as > long as their own software is also under the GPL (or a compatible > license). There is no charge as long as the application is under the > GPL and the source is freely distributed, including a commercial > application. RT (http://www.bestpractical.com/rt/) is a good example of > a commercial application which is freely redistributable; they make > their money on support and customization. Thus, they can require MySQL > without needing to pay for a commercial license. > > Part of the cost of WebCatalog is that SMSI has paid for a Commercial > License to MySQL, which allows them to distribute WebDNA with MySQL > support. There is no additional cost to us if we we use MySQL in our > own proprietary products using WebDNA, since the MySQL license is paid > for as part of the license for WebCatalog. > > John > > -- > John Peacock > Director of Information Research and Technology > Rowman & Littlefield Publishing Group > 4501 Forbes Boulevard > Suite H > Lanham, MD 20706 > 301-459-3366 x.5010 > fax 301-429-5748 > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to digest@talk.smithmicro.com> > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/
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